Re: Re: Re: Re: HD problems



shreko <UseLinkToEmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> "" wrote:
>> shreko <UseLinkToEmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
>>> Rod Speed rod_speed@xxxxxxxxx wrote
>>>> shreko <UseLinkToEmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed rod_speed@xxxxxxxxx wrote
>>>>>> shreko <UseLinkToEmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
>>
>>>>>>> I have a problem with my 2 year old machine, Gigabyte
>>>>>>> motherboard, Athlon XP 2500, 40 GB WD400JB. Over last few
>>>>>>> months I
>> have tried
>>>>>>> several Linux distro and all of them have problem. It
>> just gets worse.
>>>>>>> Machine periodically freezes and I have to reset it
>> after which does
>>>>>>> not want to boot or have difficulties. Sometimes, all of
>> a sudden
>>>>>>> computer beeps in pattern long-short-long-short
>>
>>>>>> Thats the important bit. Check what the manual says about that.
>>
>>>>>>> and shuts down itself to full power off.
>>
>>>>>>> I have run WD diagnostic tool, it did not find any
>> problem,
>>
>>>>>> It isnt a hard drive problem.
>>
>>>>>>> but when I run writing zeroes at about 80% done same
>> weird
>>>>>>> beep happened and shut down itself. I repeated and same again.
>>
>>>>>> Thats coz that is the problem.
>>
>>>>>>> Called local tech support today, he recommended
>>>>>>> to try Maxtor diagnostic which works with any HD.
>>
>>>>>> Its unlikely to be a HD problem with that beep code.
>>
>>>>>>> I did. Could not finish test, then I tried writing
>> zeroes
>>>>>>> and exactly same beep sequence and shut down.
>>
>>>>>>> Is this a HD issue
>>
>>>>>> Unlikely.
>>
>>>>>>> or something else?
>>
>>>>>> Yep. See what the motherboard manual says about that beep code.
>>
>>>>> Thanks for help!
>>
>>>>> You are right, there are some other problem than HD.
>>>>> I went to BIOS and got following:
>>
>>>>> System Temperature: 35C
>>>>> CPU Temp: 86C
>>
>>>> Urk, thats clearly the problem.
>>
>>>>> CPU Fan speed approx 3100 rpm
>>
>>>>> Then I run same Maxtor writing zeroes which caused
>>>>> that beep and shut down. I boot back up to BIOS to
>>>>> check temp and CPU temp was 97C
>>
>>>> Urk.
>>
>>>>> I guess from here I should check or replace CPU fan?
>>
>>>> Yeah, check if its all clogged up with fur. Thats likely
>> the problem.
>>
>>>> It shouldnt need replacing, its clearly still rotating
>>>> properly from the RPM.
>>
>>> Here is an update on my situation. I opened the
>>> CPU fan and there was a thick layer of fur there.
>>
>> Yeah, thats very common, mostly coming from the carpet.
>>
>>> I cleaned it with hand and vacuum,but still could not get it
>> 100% clean.
>>
>> Thats fine, you dont need 100%, it wont stay
>> 100% for long even if you get it 100% clean.
>>
>>> Put everything back, boot to bios and now is at 66-68C.
>>> Installed Ubuntu, it?s been running for few hours, no
>> problems
>>> so far. I installed some Gnome applets for monitoring CPU
>>> temp, but does not seem to work, those sensors.
>>
>> I use SpeedFan and Motherboard Monitor
>> myself. MBM isnt that easy to setup tho.
>>
>>> So to test it I have restarted machine few times and then
>>> check BIOS, it is 66-68C. Is that temp OK, or it is still
>> high?
>>
>> Thats higher than I prefer but pretty typical for that vintage
>> Athlon.
>>
>>> I did have some serious problems formatting HD after
>> interupted
>>> zeroes writing, and I still don?t feel coinfident in that HD
>> and stiil
>>> not sure that whole thing is over.. Ubuntu could not format
>> it,
>>> then I used PC LinuxOS live CD which has excellent Mandrake
>>> partitioning tool. It did the job and then Ubuntu installed
>>> correctly.
>>
>> Sure, you may have a different problem with the drive.
>>
>> See what SpeedFan says about the drive temp too,
>> tho that drive may be a tad old to have SMART
>> temperature, that came a bit late with WD drives.
>
> Hi guys,
>
> It?s been a week since my last post. I still have some serious
> problems and need your help. Since I lowered CPU temperature down, HD
> still could not work properly. WD sent me a replacement and I tried it
> yesterday with same result. All reported errors are related to HD.
> Ubuntu install fails on various stages, but always related to HD. One
> of the messages was: ?hda: drive not ready for command?. Live CD works
> OK, occasionally fails on boot related to HD. Motherboard is Gigabyte
> GA-7VT600. I have also played with BIOS setting it on ?optimized
> settings?, no better. I replaced HD IDE ribbon with no success. I
> really don?t know where to go from here?.

OK, maybe you have to separate problems, cpu temp
initially and a problem with the HD controller too.

Have a close look at the motherboard, see if any of the capacitors look bad.

These are the usually blue or black plastic covered posts like
thing sticking vertically up from the motherboard. Check that
their tops are flat, that none of them are bulging or visibly leaking.

The other possibility is that the power supply is marginal
and the drive isnt getting quite enough power when used
more aggressively for something like an install. Those
Athlons can be a bit demanding of the power supply.


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