Re: What motherboards are based on Intel 915 and Intel 945 chipsets

On 29 Mar 2006 17:38:19 -0800, mydejamail@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

George,

my reasons for going with Intel are very much as Max says. I have
neither the resources nor the time to try out various motherboards to
see which one is most suitable.

Like I've been saying, you shouldn't have to.

I need to get it right the first time and if the general wisdom in that
area is go to with Intel then I think that is the one I should go for.

This is the quote I received from the cards retailer

I recommend Intel chipsets for use with the BT878 chipsets. While I've
never experienced a problem directly I'm heard of problems involving AMD
chipsets.

Since there's 5/6 different "AMD chipsets" the only conclusion I have is
that your retailer is as dumb as the vendor is lazy.

Should I still try out AMD? I checked the software manufacturer's
website and they also say go with Intel.

I'm not saying you should - I'm only deploring the FUD propagated, and
apparently accepted as conventional wisdom, by dumb & lazy vendors. If,
OTOH, there were an AMD64 system within easy reach, how much would it cost
you to try? It's not going to break the cards.

I am not using Geovision cards but on their website here is a list of
motherboards they have tested
http://www.remote-security.com/download/pctested.pdf.

Doesn't tell much - is this an exclusive list?... are the combos not
mentioned "considered not to work well" or just untested?... err, couldn't
be bothered?

The list contains three SiS-based systems and one nForce2 (talk about
obsolete), which directly contradicts what is said in the page with the
click through to the .pdf. Hell those assholes can't even keep their Web
site up to date.

I have also one thing to add. In the past I have built PCs at friends
and business associates request, and for the most part I used AMD for
its price/performance advantage and only used Pentiums when the person
directly requested it. I have no bias against AMD and have fallen
behind on the chipset and motherboard issues, which is why I posted
this question.

In these circumstance am I really serving the customers wishes by going
with more risky (however marginal) or simply untested AMDs solution
with the attendant time and expense, or should I play it safe and try
to get it right first time, within the limits of anecdotal evidence?

From my POV, with an Athlon64 system sitting next to me right now, I'd be
inclined to "give it a go" just to see if it'd work off the bat without
excessive fiddling.

Are you inclined to sneer at individuals or companies who might not
have the resources - time, financial or technical, to test their
systems for absolute compatibility with all the motherboards and
chipsets out there? Is that considered to be a crime?

I'm not inclined to sneer at anybody other than the schmucks who just want
a comfortable income from selling the same old stuff with zero effort...
"oh hell, it seems to work with Intel, let's just sack the techs and
programmers".:-)

Oh well, let's hope there's someone around who has an eye on their lunch
and a bit of motivation. Maybe with the increasing popularity of personal
DVR, where there are plenty of vendors willing to sell into the non-Intel
pool, things will get sorted out for multi-channel DVR.

--
Rgds, George Macdonald
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