Re: Novell Desktop Linux 10: getting closer to a toss up between Linux & Windows?

On a sunny day (Sat, 11 Feb 2006 03:33:53 GMT) it happened
a?n?g?e?l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (The little lost angel) wrote in
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:15:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje
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This issue is that ONLY A MASOCHIST SEARCHES IN MS MENUS just to find it is
not in the sub-sub-sub-subs0ub menu(ater it flipepd back several times, so retry nnn),
while yiou KNWO the program is called 'mplayer' and you CAN type.
So mplayer mymovie.avi is SOOOOOO much faster.

Hmm, you store everything in the same directory?

Personally, I find it faster to find a file by browsing through a
hierachal directory/folder system then launching the app by
doubleclick.

As compared to typing something like \apps\media\mplayer
\home\downloads\movies\funny\spoofs\themovie.avi

especially if sometimes you decided some time ago themovie.avi would
be more suitable in \home\downloads\movies\funny\mtv

Then again, was that \downloads\ or \download\ ?

Sure you have perfect memory, power to you, but most of us don't and
prefer to spend our time doing something else more enjoyable than
memorizing file organisations on several drives, reading man pages and
remembering all those myriad switches options and such.

There are some things better done in GUI and some better done in CLI,
why restrict yourself?

Yes OK, this 'path' to the file is important.
Sure, if you use text a lot, like right now, yes, I have a directory structure
and it is even different on 8 or so mounted partitions.
On the other hand Linux (Unix) has a well known (and sort of (almost) standardized
directory structure, you will not likely find the movies in /usr/bin for example ;-)
(OK MS people would put self-extracting there... LOL)
In 'VDR' as is sort of a standard, and most apps that I write there is a directory
/video
in my case it is split up in
/video/ts
/video/mpeg/
etc..
On the win partition it is called movies
But /video has become a sort of standard I think.
Sometimes you change to that dir, but indeed I usually type
xine /video/my_movie.ts
Not very difficult because I put it there.
But really good memory? No way should you assume that.
the issure with Unix (unlike MS products) is this, once a day 'updatedb' runs.
So now if you want to know where blues_brothers.ts is (for example, an this assumes
you have no clue about upper and lower case, where it is or how it is written on;y know it is a .ts format),
you could do
locate -i blues | grep -i ts
that would give you some hits.
I use 'locate' and 'grep' many times a day.
There is indeed no way to remember where exactly a file is, for example working with postgres,
instelling a new version, setting up databases and links, locate will find all stuff.
The most important tools:
updatedb
locate
grep
ls -rtla (just 'l' on my system, shows the last entry is a directory)
apropos
man

And locate is very fast, not like 'find'.

As you have discovered finding something across many disk and partitions with so many giga bytes
requires tools.
then just double click middle mouse on the relevant result, no typing involved:
Example:
grml: ~ # locate -i morning | grep mp3
/video/sound/other/bob_dylan/new_morning/01-if_not_for_you_192_lame_cbr.mp3
/video/sound/other/bob_dylan/new_morning/02-day_of_the_locusts_192_lame_cbr.mp3
/video/sound/other/bob_dylan/new_morning/07-new_morning_192_lame_cbr.mp3
/video/sound/other/bob_dylan/new_morning/08-mr_tambourine_man_192_lame_cbr.mp3
/video/sound/other/bob_dylan/new_morning/12-father_of_night_192_lame_cbr.mp3
/video/sound/other/dean_martin/21-carolina_in_the_morning_192_lame_cbr.mp3

so I double click middle mouse on the line with tambourine then type these 6 characters only
mpg123 <once click of the middle mosue button to insert the full pathfilename>ENTER
and it plays

As it is still on my screen, iIcan already click a next one i want to hear.
Of cause normally it plays aiutomatically from my playlists in xmpl (that I wrote).

I think I can do this faster then dilly dally with little windows and icons.
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