Re: Novell Desktop Linux 10: getting closer to a toss up between Linux & Windows?

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 14:15:16 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So what is a 3-year old computer? For most companies that would be a
Pentium4 2.4GHz processor, 512MB of memory and a 40GB hard drive. If
this is your "low-end" system, you usually don't have to worry too
much about KDE or Gnome bogging things down. I run KDE on a similar
setup and it's pretty darn speedy.

All good and well, and those arguments make sense about old PCs, but that
is not the issue.

Imagine a screwdriver, JUST A BLOODY SCREWDRIVER.
You need one, but now all you can buy is an electric battery powered 5 gear
ultra high torque hyperspeed huge monster.
Sure, there are applications for that, but many more for the simple
screwdriver.

There's nothing wrong with using the right tool for the right
application, and that's just the point. Why should someone limit
themselves to not using a GUI just because they have really outdated
hardware that is costing more money then replacing it would?

Well, I compiled the new QT-4 2 days ago (You know that is what KDE (and open
suse) is build on.
It took several hours on a Duron 950, just for me to find out that is totally

A Duron 950 is a rather outdated system these days (probably around 5
years old). You might be fine using it at home or in a small business
if you're doing all your own IT work, but in a business where you need
to pay for IT systems of that era would cost you an arm and a leg to
support as compared to buying new systems.

different (making a new system) and incompatible with everything (other older
Qt applications) like for example the kernel xfonfig.
Just got 2.6.15.2 running now...... (menuconfig).
So all that new QT gives (check the demos) is some playing with graphics.....
layout...
Not worth the *****B*L*O*A*T*****

So why the heck did you upgrade?! I'm not advocating upgrading for
the sake of upgrading, I'm saying that people shouldn't be limiting
themselves to old applications due to the capabilities of their PC
when a newer one will add capabilities that will make them more
productive.

See, you claim about cost of PC maintenance contracts..... you seem to need P4
3.2 GHz dual core for email...
Sure most offices do NOT run video editing suites like I do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, you need a system that is covered under a warranty because support
costs for desktop PCs are roughly 3-5 times as much as their upfront
purchase cost.

All Suse desktop does is ape Billy's windows.
If you want to start an application you have to work through menus.
If you want to INSTALL something (from DVD) you have a select 'Yast' that
takes ages to 'update and read database'.

Take a simple xterm, one virtual screen in fvwm.
You want to save money in your office?
See, there are a thousand or more
(
bash I hit tab 2 times)
Display all 6696 possibilities? (y or n)
)
programs -or commands I'd rather say- already on this NEW system (now up 3
days), if you want 'something' to run, you type in an rxvt:
something

If that's what you like then fine, but you have to realize that you're
ALWAYS going to be a VERY small minority. For the VAST majority
(read: 99%) of the world, this is going to be MUCH less efficient then
going through a GUI to find what they want most of the time. Only a
few crazy masochists are going to even try to learn even a fraction of
what all those applications are going to do, so spending the time
searching through the man pages to figure out what they need is not an
efficient use of time.

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Tony Hill
hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca
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