Re: "Dell's halo is fading"
- From: "nobody@xxxxxxxxxxx" <mygarbage2000@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:00:08 GMT
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:13:08 GMT, Gary L. <nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:37:01 GMT, "nobody@xxxxxxxxxxx"
><mygarbage2000@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>>>Ah good and thanks for the info - I've wondered if you could do that... use
>>>>any WinXP install and the code from another disk.
>>>
>>>I think it has to be an *OEM* disk to match the OEM activation code on
>>>the ThinkPad's sticker. Based on what I've read, I believe that you
>>>can't use a retail version disk with an OEM code and vice-versa, but I
>>>haven't actually tested this. The pre-load XP that comes with the
>>>machine uses an activation code in a file on the recovery disk and
>>>this doesn't require activation at all, but I think that the machine
>>>type in the BIOS has to match or else the installation is aborted.
>>>
>>>Someone on thinkpads.com figured out a way to make a bootable install
>>>CD using the pre-load activation code and the install files in the
>>>I386 directory, but skipping the installation of the drivers and the
>>>packaged utilities (Norton AV, etc.) Take a look at the thread on
>>>thinkpads.com if you're interested.
>>
>>Since, from legal standpoint, using that IBM-specific activation code
>>on non-IBM OEM CD is as much a violation as any piracy ....
>
>[snip]
>
>I'm not an expert on the Microsoft EULA, but I doubt that using a
>"non-IBM OEM CD" is a violation of the Agreement. The issue is whether
>you have a license for the software that you install. In this case,
>the ThinkPad comes with a license for one copy of XP Pro, and the
>activation code for that license may be found on the sticker on the
>bottom of the computer. The particular install media used (backup copy
>on hard disk, a recovery CD set, or a generic OEM XP Pro CD) is
>irrelevant to the licensing issue. I think you are within your rights
>to use any install media as long as you have a proper license.
>
> I dislike the Microsoft product activation and I am not worried about
>whether the richest man in the world gets even richer. But my
>suggestion was merely an idea of getting a clean install without the
>extra utilities getting installed. It was not a suggestion as to how
>to circumvent Windows licensing and activation.
Same here. AFAIK someplace in EULA in small print you'll find that
you can use this OEM disk only in conjunction with the particular
piece of hardware it was acquired together with (you need to buy a PC
or at least something like a harddrive or a motherboard to be eligible
to buy OEM XP). So in the books of laws you may be in violation. But
IMHO you already paid for Windows when you bought the laptop, so, if
that Windows is screwed up by some 'value added' junkware, you have
every right to make it straight, and you should be free to use any
tool you find convenient, be it OEM disk you've bought with some other
piece of hardware, or a corporate version you've downloaded or
borrowed from work. It's just that to me, corporate version is the
easiest to install.
NNN
.
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