Re: Question
- From: "dawg" <don't look@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 22:11:04 GMT
circa 2002?Are you kidding? I'm surprised it didn't just lock up. Get all
new drivers if you want full potential from your PC.
"nobody@xxxxxxxxxxx" <mygarbage2000@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 02:54:27 -0500, George Macdonald
> <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 03:04:03 GMT, "nobody@xxxxxxxxxxx"
> ><mygarbage2000@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 21:34:46 -0500, Tony Hill
> >><hilla_nospam_20@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 01:30:24 GMT, "nobody@xxxxxxxxxxx"
> >>><mygarbage2000@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Something strange observed with one of my old boxes after WinXP
> >>>>reinstalled (clean install - partition deleted and recreated).
> >>>>Harddisk activities (files copied from drive to drive, or over the
> >>>>network) causes CPU load up to 100% sustained for the duration of
> >>>>activity(as per task mgr). Most of the load shows as kernel(red
> >>>>graph). Otherwise the system looks just fine. It's FIC VA-503+ with
> >>>>K6-2+ 500, 256MB of generic pc133, 2 IDE HDD 10 gig each, 3com NIC.
> >>>>It has the latest BIOS flashed and reset to defaults. Did I screw up
> >>>>something?
> >>>
> >>>It sounds to like the system is using PIO mode for disk I/O access
> >>>instead of DMA mode like it should be. First make sure that DMA is
> >>>enabled in the BIOS (it should already be if it was working before).
> >>>Next make sure that it is enabled in Windows:
> >>>
> >>>Device Manager -> IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers -> Primary IDE channel ->
> >>>Properties -> Advanced Settings
> >>>
> >>>On that screen you should see what mode the drive is set to (usually
> >>>either "PIO Mode" or "DMA if available", you want the latter) and what
> >>>the drive is actually set to.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>If this option is somehow not available in the settings that it may be
> >>>that the drivers for your motherboard chipset are somehow not
> >>>installed properly. Your motherboard shouldn't need any special
> >>>drivers other than what is built into WinXP, but with Windows drivers
> >>>anything can happen.
> >>>
> >>>-------------
> >>>Tony Hill
> >>>hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca
> >>
> >>That's what baffles me - it is set to "DMA if available" and shows
> >>current mode UDMA2 (this is probably the best the board can do). What
> >>else could be wrong?
> >>But thanks anyway.
> >
> >What other drives do you have in the system and on what IDE channels? If
> >you try the VIA 4-in-1 drivers be careful to get the correct ones - some
of
> >the latest are not recommended with older chipsets... but you *do* want
to
> >make sure that you have the VIA GART driver installed; the "ATAPI filter
> >driver" is one I'd only try in dire circumstances.
> >
> >So it continues to show UDMA2 as active even after a reboot? Have you
> >checked cables?... cheap enough to try a different one.:-) What is the
HDD
> >mfr and its max UDMA/ATA mode? Have you tried uninstalling the IDE
> >controller -- probably better to do that from Safe Mode -- and letting
> >WinXP rediscover it?
>
> Tried 4in1 circa 2002, as well as M$ stock drivers - the result is the
> same.
>
> >Have you checked BIOS settings for anything that might limit things?
>
> Rest assured - that was the first place I looked at. The UDMA
> settings may be picked from AUTO (as set) or DISABLED, nothing else is
> available
>
> >
> >Have you tried running HDTACH to see what it makes of it?
> >
> >There *was* a problem with some VIA South Bridges and associated BIOS way
> >back, where they could not arbitrate the UDMA mode down to their level
with
> >a drive which was capable of a higher level. The solution was to get the
> >HDD mfr's diag/feature software and force the drive to work at the best
> >level the VIA chip could support, i.e. UDMA2 in this case. While you're
at
> >it, run the HDD diags to see if anything is out of whack.
>
> The drivers are UDMA2 as well. Another drive I planned to use in the
> system - a somewhat newer 30 gig - would wirk only in PIO mode, so
> it's disconnected now, but thanks for the idea on how to downgrade it
> to UDMA2 - will try when get a few hours to kill.
>
> >Also, get a copy of Speedfan, look at the S.M.A.R.T. data for the drive
and
> >check for a "Value" or "Worst" which is equal to or lower than "Warn".
> >
> >There's been a lot of discussion about this kind of thing in various
> >Forums: the MSI one has a lot of subscribers so a search there... and the
> >HDTACH one might have something more specific. ISTR there's a registry
> >setting which forces WinXP to stay in UDMA mode but IIRC the IDE Channel
> >properties would show as running in PIO mode when it's been degraded...
not
> >100% sure there. Of course there's also the www.viatech.com forum.
>
.
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