Re: For RM, another fine article you might enjoy


"nobody@xxxxxxxxxxx" <mygarbage2000@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On 8 Jul 2005 04:28:21 -0700, "Robert Myers" <rbmyersusa@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>>nobody@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>> On 6 Jul 2005 19:01:07 -0700, "Robert Myers" <rbmyersusa@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...snip...
>>> >No, I do. Intel can clearly shift for itself. Some business
>>> >methods
>>> >are plainly harmful to society and society has to act against them.
>>> >I
>>> >don't see Intel's alleged actions as fitting into the Enron (or even
>>> >the Microsoft) category. AMD has a right to sue, the courthouse
>>> >door,
>>> >as my lawyer told me, is always open, and they've sued. I just
>>> >don't
>>> >have to be a part of the cheering section, but neither do I think
>>> >that
>>> >means that anything goes.
>>> ...snip...
>>> >RM
>>>
>>> Enron? Intel is not accused of cooking the books or otherwise
>>> cheating the investors. MSFT? Quite close, and even worse than
>>> that.
>>> You can download and install under Windows your favorite browser,
>>> media player, and office suit from the competitors. You can make
>>> your
>>> Windows machine dual-bootable (Linux or whatever else OS you like).
>>> Heck, you can even download your favorite Windows and MS Office
>>> versions, together with keygen, without paying a penny to Bill Gates
>>> (disclaimer - I do not, in any way, shape, or form encourage anyone
>>> to
>>> do so). Not exactly what one would call a monopolistic grip on the
>>> market.
>>> What is your chance to get Opteron-based server (that would have
>>> much better chance to eliminate the application bottleneck and fit
>>> within the budget, even with 4 dual cores, unlike Xeon MP) if the
>>> corporation you work for decided to standardize on Dell? If you want
>>> correct comparison for INTC, it would be Standard Oil, A&P of 1930s,
>>> GM of early 1950s, AT&T, or IBM around 1980.
>>
>>The purpose of my post wasn't to propose a general theory of corporate
>>wrongdoing. The purpose of my post was to state that I have my own
>>_personal_ notions of what matters and what doesn't and to try to give
>>some idea of what those notions are. You have posted as
>>nobody@nowhere. I post under my own name.
>
> Used to post under my real name and address. Got my email deluged
> with crap to the extent that I had to change the provider (former
> provider flatly refused to change the address). Learned my lesson.
>
>>
>>As to Intel being worse than Microsoft, that's just bizarre. Microsoft
>>has nearly single-handedly wrecked software,
>
> As much as Microsoft bashing is fashionable, one must admit that there
> are times when they come up with a solid piece of software. Besides,
> even though Win3.x was crap in terms of stability and performance, if
> not for it, computing today still would have been a privilege of the
> few in business and academia.

More Historical Revisionism, of which this group seems fond. The IBM PC
and the clones were quite popular with the general public long before
windows came out. Remember DOS? Sure you do. And 123?

Windows 3.1 was Microsoft abandoning the supposedly joint development of
OS/2 for whatever reason and releasing a competitive system that they
controlled. A major factor was that Windows abandoned the 286 base, and
came out as only useful on a 386.
>
>>possibly forever, and
>>almost certainly for my lifetime. I can't identify any similar impact
>>of Intel that has any chance of being permanent.
>
> How about x86/x87 architecture? I bet most of the folks around here
> would agree that it was not the smartest architecture out there even
> back then, and given a chance to start anew today, the PC architecture
> would have been totally different. It was just sheer luck for Intel
> that IBM picked it for its first PC. While there's only anecdotal
> evidence, one of the reasons IBM did so was to differenciate
> themselves from the likes of Apple and Atari.
> Anyway x86 is here, and it is probably going to outlive us, despite
> the best effort by Intel to kill its own child with IA64. Nice try,
> but Itanic is hopelessly sinking.
>
>>
>>The world needs inexpensive x86 processors, and they will be available.
>> The world does not _need_ quad core Opterons. They might be better as
>>servers, assuming that all the appropriate infrastructure went with
>>them, but there will be no human suffering attributable to AMD's
>>failure to penetrate the marketplace. I'm just not going to respond to
>>any more "I want my AMD, and I want it now posts," because that's what
>>they are.
> It's your right under 1st Amendment, as well as everyone else's right
> to post.
>>
>>RM

And to all you folks that know what the world needs, let me assure you
that, given a chance the world will communicate what it wants, maybe not
what it needs, through the market's invisible hand.

del
>


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