Re: The Witcher Performance Issue.

"Nostromo" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:qcb144d9dhccenjf1cusnkvsce8hqn39uc@xxxxxxxxxx
Thus spake "Morgan" <Nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Sat, 31 May 2008 01:26:09 +0100,
Anno Domini:

Tell me, why is it that almost
every app & game still runs more than acceptably on my 3 yr old (then
upper-midrange)

Because your system is three years old and wasn't overly great when it was
new. An equivalent modern system will have about four times the horsepower
today.

Re-read the question - you've answered a different one I didn't ask.

Okay the answer is it doesn't. Just the ones that you run are fine. Chuck Vista on a new rig and there will be negligible difference between games running on a vista rig compared to an XP one. On a modern computer it is my experience that Vista actually runs faster and none gaming apps also run faster.

single-core system, but in order to reap the amazing
'benefits' of Vista I need a dual-core rig

You don't. I ran Vista fine on a single core Athlon FX-55 for quite some
time.

Why do we need inefficient bloatware like Vista sucking 25%+ of our
processing power & monster systems to run it on at all, is the underlying
question you're avoiding.

Where are you getting 25% from? My answer to the question is that it doesn't use 25% and it will run fine of a modern mid range PC. You're trying to run in on a three year old mid range PC.

If you're trying to run a new operating system on a old PC what do you
expect to happen? Vista is aimed at new hardware, just as XP was aimed at
new hardware. When XP came out people were bitching that it didn't run
games as well as 98 did. When the next version of windows come out people
will probably be moaning about how Vista runs games better.

Chicken & the egg. And we're back to the Intel/MS duopoly. If you see
nothing wrong with the trend, if your eyes & mind have been that closed to
what's been going on for years & years, then I'm sorry to say you're a large
part of the problem, & there is no 'solution' that we will find common
ground on to discuss.

It's called advancement in technology. Vista is a more stable, more functional and nicer to look at OS than XP was and will run fine on a modern PC.

I like to play a verity of games, some other these need a lot of horsepower,
I'm also interested new OSs and hardware. I've got enough disposable income
to be able to afford to keep my hardware up to date. If you don't have a
need to do this then fair enough (If I used my PC in the same way you did
I'd sped the money else where as well ) but don't come bitching about how
new operating systems don't run well one your old hardware.

You still have your head in the sand & haven't demonstrated that any
modern/recent game requires anywhere near the grunt they have been forced to
utilise as a result of the bloatware & inefficiencies/performance loss
inherent in Vista, which is not dissimilar to what we've seen happen with
each Windows iteration & most have taken lying down.

Er yes I have. I've already mentioned a games comparisons (not the best method but functional none the less). If Vista used a substantially greater proportion of system recourses compared to XP on a modern system then high end games would run with substantially reduced frame rates. This is not the case. Even a few weeks after release there was only a negligible difference on a 2GB Athlon FX

The bottom line is that Vista runs games well on a modern(ish) rig, it ran
them fine on my old single core Athlon FX and it runs them fine on my
current Intel Quad core.

Good for you, and for me if I wanted to exchange my principles for cheap
thrills, as I probably have just as much money to burn as you.

If you're principles include not spending money on new hardware then fine. However I'd suggest that you take it too seriously and that you need to lighten up.

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