Re: OT: Computer Advice
- From: Walter Mitty <mitticus@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 24 Dec 2005 15:43:05 GMT
In an earlier post, jmfbahciv@xxxxxxx postulated:
> In article <slrndqqmlr.97l.mitticus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> Walter Mitty <mitticus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>In an earlier post, Mean_Chlorine postulated:
>>> Thusly Konrad Gaertner <kgaertner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Spake Unto All:
>>>
>>>>> Any version of WinXP is stable. It's nothing like Win9x. If you get
>>>>> crashes in WinXP it's because of either faulty hardware or buggy
>>>>> drivers.
>>>>
>>>>In my experience, my parents' XP machine crashes 6-9 times for every
>>>>time my 98SE machine does. Their crashes seem to be a conflict
>>>>between Office 2000 and AoL, while mine are likely internet related.
>>>
>>> No, applications _can not_ crash XP, because it's got full memory
>>> protection - applications can not overwrite the system in memory like
>>> they could with Win9x's partial memory protection.
>>>
>>> Any actual system crash in XP is a result of faulty hardware or buggy
>>> drivers, period.
>>> Unfortunately both poor hardware and buggy drivers are thirteen to the
>>> dozen.
>>> Prediction 4: The US will attack a small & defenceless third world country
> in
>>> 2012 or 2013. Probably in Africa.
>>> A country *may* be attacked in 2009, but only if polls show democrats will
> win
>>> the election, and it will if so not be small and defenceless. Iran?
>>
>>
>>We have been through this before : of course apps CAN crash XP : by
>>invoking a non secure device driver interface which causes the DD to
>>crash the system.
>
> This is a bug in the monitor (kernal in Unix terms). It
> doesn't matter if the code is a device driver. If the code
> had been loaded as a usermode program, it should continue
> to be treated as a user mode program. The device
> driver should never, EVER has access to the EXEC portions
> of the monitor and should never be allowed to run in
> exec-mode.
>>
>>You can argue the toss all aou loike but in effect, the App has
>>initiated the crash : the end result is the same - BSOD.
>
> This is due to the operating system allowing a user mode
> program to run in exec-mode. Micshit thinks that this
> type of breaching security is a feature.
>
> /BAH
>
So what? We all can google up whatever or spew out our knowledge : but
the bottom line is the same - XP can and does crash. I dont mind : all
SW crashes. And in fairness to XP, over the past 3 years it has hardly
ever crashed on me. My Linux system has failed far more in the past 4
weeks due to mismatched kernel components.
--
"Well it proves one thing Mr. Hooper. It proves that you wealthy college boys
don't have the education enough to admit when you're wrong.
.
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