Re: Best Newsgroup for Multiplayer Action games?

Nostromo <nostromo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> looked up from reading the entrails
of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

>Thus spake Xocyll <Xocyll@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Fri, 20 Jan 2006 05:01:47 -0500,
>Anno Domini:
>
>>>Ummm, X, you have not 1, not 2, but FIVE different options on how you want
>>>Opera to behave on start-up, including Continue from last time, continue
>>>from saved session, start with home page, no page, OR (& this is the one you
>>>should've used), show start-up dialog. QED. *boggle*
>>
>>The default was to continue from last time, and with no way to start the
>>damn browser to CHANGE that option the browser stayed locked.
>>
>>You'd think there would be a sanity check that said "Hey, the last 5
>>times we've tried auto-loading this page on startup, the browser
>>crashed, lets NOT load it anymore" but there wasn't so the browser ended
>>up in an endless loop of auto-crashing without ever letting me change
>>anything.
>>
>>The simple fact that it did crash (and on a site that netscape had no
>>problems with) and had no backup to disengage it's auto-load so it
>>auto-crashed made it _*SERIOUSLY*_ bugged and seriously not ready for
>>prime time.
>
>Dude, you coulda disconnected the net or blocked Opera getting out with a
>s/ware f/w temporarily, changed the startup option or closed that page
>(probably quickly enough anyway given you're on dial-up) & not dwelt on this
>infinitesimally small issue. The default option is, imo, the most sensible
>one for them to set. Most other browsers didn't even have this before Opera
>IIRC.

It crashed when starting even when I was *NOT* connected to the net.
It had cached the bad data somewhere, lord only knows where.

>>>>Some of the other features were also annoying - auto alphabetization of
>>>>bookmarks for instance - I want my bookmarks where *I* put them not
>>>>sorted in spite of my wishes.
>>>
>>>Nope. Bzzt. They stay where I put them. If I just add them to a group or
>>>drag/drop them over a folder they appear at the bottom. I've never looked,
>>>but there's probably an option or default behaviour for that as well.
>>>What version of Opera were you lookin at anyway dude? :-/
>>
>>That's happened with several version - when I imported my existing
>>bookmarks (and who is going to throw them away when switching browsers)
>>it auto-sorted everything.
>
>Man, there's not pleasing some ppl, ey? ;-p So it's only on import - how
>many bookmarks you have that you actually use regularly? 5000? With Opera I
>don't save 10% of the bmarks I used to because it remembers/auto-completes
>URLs & I can find a site in history in like 5 ms!

It doesn't matter how many I use regularly, it matters because there is
absolutely NO REASON to change the order of the bookmarks on import.
It should be importing them EXACTLY as they are.

>>>>Every now and then I try Opera again and every time I've found it in the
>>>>"not ready for prime time" state.
>>>
>>>I couldn't disagree more, having used it since v7 through 8 now.
>>
>>Yes, but coming from what?
>
>Well, mostly IE *blush* (& I bit of Netscrape).

That makes a huge difference. Anything looks good after IE.

>>When I first looked at Opera it was brand new on the scene and had some
>>nice features - it also crashed hard a lot - something netscape almost
>>never did at that time- bye bye opera.
>>
>>I keep checking it out every now and then and there's always something
>>it does that's just plain WRONG from my point of view.
>
>If grows on you...unlike the mould that is IE ;)

I used netscape long before IE even existed and the couple times I
actually installed IE (to access some site that was IE only) quickly
convinced me of two things; IE is a steaming pile of crap and sites
that require IE only are generally not worth visiting.

>>>>Now if FF would lose that god awful scrolling bookmark thing and go back
>>>>to Netscape style cascading windows i'd be a lot happier.
>>>
>>>I think I will endeavour to install FF this w/e & do a comparison. From
>>>everything I've heard from IT professionals to date, IT'S "not ready for
>>>prime time" as yet when compared to Opera.
>>
>>But you haven't actually seen it judging by what you've been saying.
>>
>>You can't honestly compare two products if you never even look at one of
>>them.
>
>Oh I've seen & looked, just not extensively in a primary use capacity. Some
>of my guys at work use it, the main reason being we're too tight-arsed to
>pay for Opera ;)

There's a vast difference between looking at someone use a browser (with
their choice of settings) and using it your self (and setting it up.)

Not unlike the difference between watching someone play a game and
playing it yourself.

Xocyll
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