Re: Best Newsgroup for Multiplayer Action games?

Nostromo <nostromo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> looked up from reading the entrails
of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

>Thus spake Xocyll <Xocyll@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:12:35 -0500,
>Anno Domini:
>
>>Nostromo <nostromo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> looked up from reading the entrails
>>of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>>
>>>Thus spake Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.>, Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:32:13 +0000,
>>>Anno Domini:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 06:55:28 +1100, Nostromo
>>>><nostromo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Details, details...what does FF do that Opera doesn't? Don't make me start a
>>>>>reverse list! ;) And I'm not talking about 3rd-party plug-ins from non-std
>>>>>sites - I want to d/l & install the base package & get more than Opera gives
>>>>>me now, which I'm pretty sure won't happen. If I want to hunt around for
>>>>>add-ons & plug-ins I'd still be using IE.
>>>>
>>>>Out of the box, as it were, Firefox doesn't have all the functions of
>>>>Opera. You need to install extensions (Tools>Options>Get More
>>>>Extensions) which brings you to a browser specific version of this
>>>>page:
>>>>https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/
>>>>where you can very easily install any of hundreds of extensions that
>>>>cover everything Opera does as well as a lot more.
>>>
>>>I guess that's not too bad. I do plan on giving FF a decent run for it's
>>>money (no pun intended ;) at some stage, though I generally dread 2 similar
>>>type apps (browsers, mail clients, whatever) installed & running at the same
>>>time.
>>
>>This can actually be an advantage if you have multiple browser windows
>>open (as I do quite frequently) a glitch/lockup/crash of the browser
>>will only dump those windows used by that browser and not the other.
>>
>>The main reason I never stayed with Opera was exactly this kind of
>>thing. Opera had/has this funky feature that reloaded the pages you
>>were viewing at the spots you were viewing upon it's restart.
>>
>>Only when Opera crashed hard upon visiting a site that had something
>>seriously wrong with it, it could not recover.
>>Every time it was started it tried to load it's "last seen" stuff and
>>crashed again. End result - a browser that couldn't view anything
>>because it could never start.
>
>Ummm, X, you have not 1, not 2, but FIVE different options on how you want
>Opera to behave on start-up, including Continue from last time, continue
>from saved session, start with home page, no page, OR (& this is the one you
>should've used), show start-up dialog. QED. *boggle*

The default was to continue from last time, and with no way to start the
damn browser to CHANGE that option the browser stayed locked.

You'd think there would be a sanity check that said "Hey, the last 5
times we've tried auto-loading this page on startup, the browser
crashed, lets NOT load it anymore" but there wasn't so the browser ended
up in an endless loop of auto-crashing without ever letting me change
anything.

The simple fact that it did crash (and on a site that netscape had no
problems with) and had no backup to disengage it's auto-load so it
auto-crashed made it _*SERIOUSLY*_ bugged and seriously not ready for
prime time.

>>Some of the other features were also annoying - auto alphabetization of
>>bookmarks for instance - I want my bookmarks where *I* put them not
>>sorted in spite of my wishes.
>
>Nope. Bzzt. They stay where I put them. If I just add them to a group or
>drag/drop them over a folder they appear at the bottom. I've never looked,
>but there's probably an option or default behaviour for that as well.
>What version of Opera were you lookin at anyway dude? :-/

That's happened with several version - when I imported my existing
bookmarks (and who is going to throw them away when switching browsers)
it auto-sorted everything.

>>Every now and then I try Opera again and every time I've found it in the
>>"not ready for prime time" state.
>
>I couldn't disagree more, having used it since v7 through 8 now.

Yes, but coming from what?

When I first looked at Opera it was brand new on the scene and had some
nice features - it also crashed hard a lot - something netscape almost
never did at that time- bye bye opera.

I keep checking it out every now and then and there's always something
it does that's just plain WRONG from my point of view.

>>Now if FF would lose that god awful scrolling bookmark thing and go back
>>to Netscape style cascading windows i'd be a lot happier.
>
>I think I will endeavour to install FF this w/e & do a comparison. From
>everything I've heard from IT professionals to date, IT'S "not ready for
>prime time" as yet when compared to Opera.

But you haven't actually seen it judging by what you've been saying.

You can't honestly compare two products if you never even look at one of
them.


Xocyll
--
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Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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