Re: I'm getting old and lazy.
- From: john.dsl@xxxxxxxxxxx (John Lewis)
- Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:11:06 GMT
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:20:40 +0200, Benjamin Gawert <bgawert@xxxxxx>
wrote:
>OldDog wrote:
>
>> Last week, I went to my local Fry's store and bought a new motherboard, AMD
>> 3800 X2 cpu, case, nvidia 7800 GT video card, SATA HD, and ram. I spent 3
>> days trying to get it up and running.
>>
>> But ran into the following issues:
>
>[snipped description of problems]
>
>> After 3 days and several phone calls to MS, Gigabyte, Western Digital and
>> Fry's pc repair, I finally threw in the towel and took the parts back for a
>> refund.
>>
>> Old-and-Stupid-Dog
>
>Why stupid? Only because You couldn't manage to have several components
>made by cheap-ass manufacturers with basically no quality control
>running together? Especially mainboards, RAM, PSUs and gfx cards are
>made with priority to featuritis and illuminated fans than on
>reliability and durability. Just look on how few BIOSes lock the ATA
>security function correctly so that it can't be used by viri to lock
>Your hard drive...
>
>I stopped building by myself years ago and only buy brandname (IBM and
>Dell in the past, now its HP), but not the el-cheapo consumer lines
>(like IBM Aptiva, HP Pavilion or Compaq Presario) but business products.
>My current computer (a HP xw8200 Dual XEON 3GHz, 4GB DDR2, 2x 250GB
>SATA, PNY Geforce 6600GT) would have cost me around 50-100EUR more(!) if
>I would have built the system by myself with generic components. So I
>not only saved some money, but I alos have a nice-looking system which
>is very quiet, extremely stable, and has a 3 year next business day
>warranty. And if something fails I don't have to talk to different
>manuafcturers which don't know what service really is and that are only
>busy in telling me that it's not the fault of their product but of a
>component from a different manufacturer.
>
>Self builing is IMHO ok if You do it for fun and out of interest, or if
>You need a config that's not available otherwise, or if You really like
>these modding thingies. But the old argument that only self-building
>gives You the best components available simply isn't true. And at least
>for me my sparse free time is much too valuable to waste it with
>non-working el-cheapo components...
>
>Benjamin
Hmmm.... that's odd..........
I have a p4-3.2 based computer built out of so-called ( by your
standards ) cheap components - actually very high quality ones --
running flawlessly for the past 2+ years. Cost me less than $1000
total (inc OS but excluding monitor). A far less-capable
sorta-equivalent system from Dell at that time would have cost me
over $1600 (excluding monitor). A very straightforward build. How do
you think Dell makes their profit... out of suckers like you.
BTW, my machine has 2 blue-illuminated fans on my BFG FX5900
(non-XT) --- came with the board and a full copy of Call of Duty for
$165, coutesy of Newegg.com. Such gaudiness is not exactly my
cup of tea, but why complain at that price ? The board overclocks
very nicely too........
Nice to know that you are (a) made of money and
(b) technically pretty naive about modern computer
hardware.
John Lewis
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