Re: I'm getting old and lazy.
- From: "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:45:12 GMT
"OldDog" <OldDog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Walter Mitty" <mitticus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Just bought a fujitsu siemens home entertainment pc. Windows Media Centre
>> Extensions. Remote control etc.
>>
>> Works out of the box.
>>
>> How long before I wonder what a "driver" is?
>>
>> Runs everything fine. 3.2 G Northwood CPU. 1 gig of ram. Wireless built
>> in. FX 5500 video.
>>
>> Best thing was connecting up and having my HL2 suite up and running
>> within an hour or so just by connecting Steam : just as well - since I
>> don't have the "hardcopy" :-;
>>
>> The ability to go straight to live tv, record on the fly etc is
>> excellent.
>>
>> Linux my ass.
>
> Last week, I went to my local Fry's store and bought a new motherboard,
> AMD 3800 X2 cpu, case, nvidia 7800 GT video card, SATA HD, and ram. I
> spent 3 days trying to get it up and running.
>
> But ran into the following issues:
>
> 1. manuals that were vague and incomplete
> 2. a motherboard CD that would load the drivers and then cause the
> system to reboot and then prompt me to pick from 2 versions of WinXP
> installed. I only installed WinXP once.
> 3. video card wouldn't work with DVI cable. I had to use a VGA adapter
> on the video card and then a VGA cable.
> 4. WinXP wouldn't recognize the keyboard. I spent 4 hrs on the phone
> with MS and tried 3 different keyboards.
> 5. the harddrive CD tools would boot from startup, load a P/S 2 mouse
> driver, and then hang. I have a USB mouse!
> 6. had to yank an old 3.5inch floppy off a computer in the closet so I
> could load the SATA/Raid drivers during WinXP install. (note: I tried
> installing WinXP without a floppy and ran into problems. Gigabyte
> recommended that I use a floppy).
>
> After 3 days and several phone calls to MS, Gigabyte, Western Digital and
> Fry's pc repair, I finally threw in the towel and took the parts back for
> a refund.
>
> Old-and-Stupid-Dog
>
my own recent build went a little differently than yours. Sorry to hear
about your woes. Really wish i could have helped out.
I put together a new rig; AMD A64 X2 4800+ on a GA-K8NS-939Ultra (yep
that's an nforce3 ultra with AGP, not PCI-e), 2 x 1g PC3200 in dual channel.
Had to flash the bios FROM the bios with the bin on a floppy disk. It just
didn't 'take' any other way nor would the bios pass control to an op sys
until the bios was updated to recognize the X2 CPU. Did not use a sata
drive so bypassed installing sata drivers completely. Install both Win
64bit and xP Pro regular 32 bit, dual boot. All was ok except that DVD
functions with ANY DVDRW drive would be corrupted data.
Reformat, install only XP Pro 32 bit, get up to desktop, install nforce3
drivers, all the latest ones. Found that the newest IdE driver would cause
probs so installed the latest nvidia ide driver before that one. All cd/dvd
stuff works perfect now. Rig is solid and stable, nothing overclocked. It
runs rings around my P4 3.0E with 2 gigs.
Using the same eVGA 6800GT i've been using since may. Put a Ti4600 in the
P4 rig :)
You might be an old dog, but you don't strike me as stupid. A little short
on patience maybe. I also built this rig to a running state at the shop
where I bought all the parts. I did this because the guy I buy from
guarantees ALL the parts and labor for a full year himself *if* he
supervises the build :) SO. This old dog knows that's a good thing and did
just that :)
Using the X2 on a 939 AGP board is something he hadn't done yet. We talked
it over before ordering any parts. Gigabyte site says most all of their 939
socket boards will work fine with the dual core CPU's with just a BIOS
update. They were right about this one for sure.
In a couple more months, i will probably get a PCI-e mobo, a new (either ATI
or Nvidia) vid card, and a A64 3800+ or higher single core CPU.
I hope you don't give up the new build completely. the end results here
were well worth the 3 days of messing with it all to get it 'right' :)
McG.
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