Re: Civility and Angles
- From: Irl <irl1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 19 Apr 2007 18:04:14 -0700
[this entire pos is in degrees, not radians]
In spherical triangles, given three angles there is _not_ an infinity
of solutions For example, a triangle with angles of 60,60,60 will be
vanishingly small. A trinangle with angles of 90,90,90 will be
precisely an octant of the sphere. This is the great distinction
between plane and spherical geometry. In fact, there is a nice formula
which the margin of this note is too small to contain which relates
the area of a spherical triangle to the "defect", i.e. (sum of angles)
- 180.
Also: please note that angles greater than 180 are quite distinct. A
triangle with angles of 299,299,299 is almost the triangle obtained by
replacing the lines at the corners of a 60-60-60 triangle with the
portions of the great circles which lie outside the original small
triangle. It is hard to visualize but very real.
--Irl
On Apr 19, 2:06 pm, Beauzeau <angelo.cas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Civility and Angles
To John Meyers and Dave Boyd,
I just want to thank each of you for answering my simple question and
educating me on USENET. Both of you have treated me with respect and
carried yourselves with dignity and civility. Again, I thank you.
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Question Concerning triangles: I hope to read the manual twice to
obtain maximum benefit from it. In my first reading , on page 7-13 of
the manual, there is a note: "If you get a value of larger than 180,
try the following...." which is re-initializing the angle to a value
of 10 degrees. Then solve for alpha again. I assume that a solution in
the eyes of the HP 50 is 360 - the 'correct' angle. At first, I
wondered why the gentleman who wrote these pages for HP did not
include a conditional statement:' If alpha > 180, then alpha
10 store ' to re-initialize alpha. The reason, I assume, is that
MES is a pre programmed routine, hard coded in the memory (a PROM?).
And the program is a generic program to be used for types of systems
of multiple equations. For situations such as these, it would be
beneficial to add 'GO TO' program at the end of MES, to insure the
solved angle is less than 180 degrees, such as the conditional
mentioned above, of course in SysRPN. One could then apply the
concept to other programs where conditional statements are needed to
avoid pre-determined possible erroneous solutions. Question: is that
possible? Was it possible for the person at HP to add a condtional
statement to the MES program , obviously outside of the 'hard coded'
MES program. ????
Thanks , as always.
Footnote: I suspect that there is an error on 7-10 : the three sides
and the three angles are listed as variables in a hypothetical
triangle. It is stated that if you know any of the three variables,
the other three may be solved. However, if one knows three of the
angles, there are an infinite number of solutions for the sides ,
since all the triangles are similar with equal angles . Therefore,
one side must be know to obtain a unique solution
.
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