Re: OT: Oil prices, and is it a conspiracy of sorts?
- From: Jeff Kubler <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:51:13 -0700
Denys,
Did you see the movie about a fictional oil baron called "There will be Blood"? The main character listened while another tried to get him to buy the rights to a piece of property and then said he already had the oil like he had used a straw to suck from his milk shake. Sounds like thats what the Chinese are doing to us. Drilling at an angle to get the oil we refuse to get to?
Thanks,
Jeff Kubler
At 06:23 AM 7/18/2008, Denys Beauchemin wrote:
In 1995, Bill Clinton vetoed the bill that would have allowed drilling in
ANWAR. The Democrats have been fighting efforts to drill off the US coast.
In 2005, a bill failed that would have allowed such drilling to take place.
Instead we let the Chinese drill off our coasts.
Do you remember the 2001 energy package that was proposed by the Bush
administration? Let me bring it back to your attention:
The BBC has this report that is interesting to read. It's dated May 18,
2001.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/1337248.stm
On the same date the NYT had this article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/18/politics/18BUSH.html?ex=1216526400&en=d622
1674fa315a70&ei=5070
I liked this part:
"His critics swarmed over the specifics, noting that the plan set no targets
for improved energy efficiency, offered no short-term relief for
out-of-control electricity prices in the West and provided only modest
financing for research into clean energy technology."
No short term relief, eh? Then let's not do anything. Sounds like Lord
Obama when he says allowing drilling in ANWAR would not lower the price of
gas this summer, so let's not do anything.
Then on August 20, 2003 the NYT reported this:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C02E5DD1E30F933A1575BC0A9659
C8B63
This is my favorite part:
"But the president's ambitious policy quickly became a casualty of energy
politics and, notably, harsh criticism from Democrats enraged by the way the
White House had created the plan. Although the policy included
recommendations to improve the nation's electric grid that everyone agreed
on, they were lost in the shouting and have been dormant in Congress for the
past two years."
Enraged by the way the plan was created? So, let's block it.
As we all know by now, nothing was done; the Dems fought any action as hard
as they could and the Republicans in Congress didn't have enough people the
required backbone to do the right thing.
I do not envy your lack of memory. It must be difficult finding your socks
in the morning.
Denys...
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Subject: [HP3000-L] OT: Oil prices, and is it a conspiracy of sorts?
<SNIP, SNIP>
"So when the Democratic infants took over Congress in 2006, it was a
foregone conclusion there would be no drilling in ANWAR and offshore.
Instead the infants want to sue OPEC."
<SNIP, SNIP, SNIP, SNIP>
Denys, I recall the Republicans controlling Congress in the past, yet
when the Republicans controlled the Congress, they did not lift the ban
on offshore drilling either.
Hmm, I guess the Democrats not lifting the ban is an evil plan, but the
Republicans leaving the ban in place was/is just an oversight?
I'll be a smart_ass, and say this again: I recall Mr. Bush saying
something to the tune of he hadn't heard anything about $4.00 a gallon
gas back in February...
I really envy you, Denys, because you have the world figured out. For
you, it's just on/off, black/white, Democrats are evil while Republicans
are good (dare I say benevolent). I, on the other hand, can't get my
arms/mind around all of this stuff (oil prices, wars, starvation, etc.).
I admit it's far too complicated, and there are just too many players
for me to understand it all. Just when I think I can assign blame or
propose a cure, I realize that I can't blame just one political party
for the problem, nor can I expect just one political party to affect a
cure (choke, gasp, I also realize that I am both part of the problem as
well as part of the cure). In fact, when I think in terms of
Republicans vs. Democrats, I always seem to come up with the
uncomfortable feeling that both of them are evil mothers...they will do
for themselves before us at any time, and for just about any reason, and
I don't think one party/politician is any less likely to put their
interest above mine (or yours, Denys) than another party/politician is.
Raymond Shahan
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