Re: User passwords.
- From: Bill Lancaster <bill.lancaster@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:47:38 -0800
Robert,
You won't be able to accomplish this using MPE's password scheme.
You'll either need to find the money for Security/3000 or
write/creatively acquire a passwording system that sits on top of MPE
and can apply all the rules you want. The absolute best option is to
get Security/3000 but short of that maybe some on this list will have
something they can contribute to you.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Robert Mills
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:41 AM
To: HP3000-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] User passwords.
When I first read the requirements I immediately thought of giving users
access to the PASSWORD command.
But then I read it again the way Alfredo says you should (like a
love-letter).
The result was the following paragraph in my original posting:
> What management now want is for a user to be forced to change their
> password on a regular basis. Also, certain rules must be applied to
> the new password.
Rules include password must not be same a last n passwords and certain
words are not allowed.
regards,
Robert W.Mills
MIS Systems Development Manager
Windsong Services
+44 (0)20 8309 3604
-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of J Dolliver
Sent: 31 January 2006 16:53
To: HP3000-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] User passwords.
Try using the password command if users have access to the colon prompt:
help password
PASSWORD
Creates or changes a user password.
Syntax
PASSWORD
KEYWORDS: PARAMETER,OPERATION,EXAMPLE
:help password example
EXAMPLE(S)
PASSWORD
ENTER OLD USER PASSWORD:
ENTER NEW USER PASSWORD:
ENTER NEW USER PASSWORD AGAIN:
PASSWORD WAS CHANGED SUCCESSFULLY.
-------------- Original message from "Skeet, Nigel"
<nigel.skeet@xxxxxx>: --------------
> Hi Robert,
>
> >> Also, certain rules must be applied to the new password
>
> Remember MPE user passwords aren't case sensitive and don't allow
> special chars so you're restricted to alpha-numeric.
>
> As for the user changing them for this to happen they'll need access
> to MPE to use the ALTUSER command and I'm sure you don't allow normal
> users to gain access to the MPE level... What sort of application
> front end do you have ? Maybe you could include an option within that
> to allow the user to change their passwords.
>
> Nige...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Robert Mills
> Sent: 31 January 2006 17:39
> To: HP3000-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [HP3000-L] User passwords.
>
> Greetings to the -L,
>
> Currently we do not allow users to change their own passwords. When
> they are added to the system they are given a password to use by their
> account manager. If they need a new password then they have to contact
> their account manager who changes it and then tells them what it is.
> Some have not been changed for years.
>
> What management now want is for a user to be forced to change their
> password on a regular basis. Also, certain rules must be applied to
> the new password.
>
> We don't have Vesoft's Security, although we do have MPEX, and I am
> unable to get the funds to buy it. I therefore have two options. 1)
> Write something myself, 2) See if there is anything in the CSL that
> will do the job OR can be modified to supply the required solution.
>
> Question: Is anybody using a contribution from the CSL that they can
> recommend for this?
>
>
> regards,
>
> Robert W.Mills
> MIS Systems Development Manager
> Windsong Services
> +44 (0)20 8309 3604
>
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