Re: hp recovery dvd
- From: Frank Slootweg <this@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 26 Dec 2005 11:25:40 GMT
ben_myers_spam_me_not wrote:
> I forgot to mention that in addition to a Windows XP Home or Pro CD,
> one also needs the drivers for all the chipsets in the computer.
> There is no clear bet that the required chipsets will be on an XP CD,
> which was mastered back in 2001 or 2002 whilst the computer was
> designed and built after.
>
> HP generally does a worse than 3rd rate job of providing drivers
> on-line for its computers (Pavilions and Presarios), but the drivers
> can be found elsewhere. If the computer has an Intel processor, then
> it invariably needs Intel motherboard drivers, possibly an Intel
> Extreme Graphics drivers, and usually an Intel 10/100 Pro Ethernet
> driver. Modem and audio drivers are also chipset specific.
>
> ... Ben Myers
Isn't it a tad hard to get drivers on-line when your system is down?
In order to get drivers on-line (when their system is down) they need
help from *other* people (with things like CD-burners).
Instead of waiting for disaster to strike, these people *could* make a
thing called "backup" (and *you* could advise them to do so). Then they
wouldn't have these problems in the first place and you wouldn't 'have'
to whine about 'missing' software all the time.
> On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 19:24:30 GMT, ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben
> Myers) wrote:
>
> >As a rule, I have found that a "generic" retail XP CD will work with the product
> >key affixed to a name brand computer. But a name brand manufacturer's "restore"
> >CD (actually a Windows XP CD) will NOT work with a generic product key.
> >
> >Microsoft alleged Windows Genuine Advantage now catches the mismatches.
> >"Alleged" because the only real advantage is Microsoft's, not yours or mine.
> >
> >For a name brand computer's product key, the Windows CD must be the original
> >install CD, not an upgrade CD, and it must match the version of Windows on the
> >sticker, either Home or Pro.
> >
> >I would be surprised if HP computers were any different in this regard than
> >IBM's or Dell's. If they are different, this would be yet another reason not to
> >buy an HP... Ben Myers
> >
> >On 25 Dec 2005 08:03:15 -0800, "rjn" <email4rjn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>til wrote:
> >>
> >>> I don't see any way the verify the [recovery] dvds
> >>> at this time. Any ideas?
> >>
> >>Well, you could try them on a machine in a store :-)
> >>You're facing a basic connundrum of backup. If you
> >>haven't ever restored a given backup, you have to
> >>assume it won't.
> >>
> >>But in addition to the other tips people have posted,
> >>here's another: does the OEM key (if any) for the
> >>machine work with generic XP install media? If so, and
> >>if MS hasn't made XP media uncopyable, you might
> >>be able to get a clone of someone elses XP CD for
> >>use as rebuild media. This tactic did work on mid- and
> >>late-1990s PCs.
> >>
> >>> I said I would never purchase a proprietary computer,
> >>> and just purchased a pavilion a1228x.
> >>
> >>I began building my own about the same time PC makers
> >>stopped including full-install media. I have helped other
> >>people buy branded PCs, and currently use the criterion:
> >>does it also support Linux? If so, that's usually an indication
> >>that drivers for all the chips & bits inside are separately
> >>available from the recovery media/partition, and that there
> >>is at least a small chance you'll be able to upgrade at the
> >>next major OS roll. Whether or not any current HP/Compaq
> >>PCs meet my criteria, I couldn't say.
> >>
> >>When a PC doesn't also run Linux, odds are high that at
> >>least one of the components has no Linux drivers, and as
> >>often as not, that component will turn out to have been
> >>custom-made for the PC brand, and you can't even get
> >>Win drivers from the supplier that actually built it. And if
> >>it's a chip, or just a VLSI cell inside a chip (e.g. audio),
> >>you may not even be able to shut it off and replace it with
> >>a real supportable card or bussed device.
> >>
> >>> I attempt to create the recovery dvd discs today and
> >>> after finishing the first, the system says that there are
> >>> errors on it and it has to be recreated. I put another disc
> >>> in and start over. It makes the second and gives me a
> >>> message saying that no more can be created.
> >>
> >>I had thought that nonsense was abandoned in 1988. Guess not.
> >>It wasn't MS doing it at the time, so perhaps they didn't learn.
> >>It's too late to try this on your PC, but I wonder if doing an
> >>image backup of the HDD would allow one to get around
> >>the recovery-build count. Re-image the HDD after each try,
> >>and see if it resets the count to zero.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Regards, Bob Niland mailto:name@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>http://www.access-one.com/rjn email4rjn AT yahoo DOT com
> >>NOT speaking for any employer, client or Internet Service Provider.
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