Re: Do you think it's SEXY? N.B. not spam. :)
- From: Bill Buckels <bbuckels@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:51:40 -0700 (PDT)
On Mar 27, 5:33 am, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <bj_...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes and no. I haven't looked into your compiler and libraries. My
reasons are: It's not cross platform i.e. I would have to run an emulator
for DOS or Windows to work with it on Linux. And I like that Uz (author
of cc65) is trying to be as much as possible standard C compliant. And
it's an actively maintained project.
Ciao,
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
Well Marc I have the same complaint of most GNU-ish stuff since little
of it compiles without cygwin or MinGW and all that. Many times also
it comes with MAKEFILE's that make a mess and no Win32 binaries
either. So much so that I just don't install anything like that unless
I really have a compelling reason, like Qt4 and MinGW:) which I like
to mess with.
As far as actively maintained, I think it is very admirable that the
cc65 project has seen as much new code in 2008 as my Aztec C website
has in C64 code alone. (Or has it?) I have also been suffering under
the illusion that those many many thousands of lines of samples etc.
of new code that I am offering with source are actively
maintained(LOL) since I am the one maintaining them.
I do however understand the dilemma. The C that linux uses is standard
unto itself, just as the K&R C used by Aztec C's older versions is
standard to itself and the ANSI C 99 is standard to itself and the
ANSI C 89 is standard to itself. Microsoft C in Visual Studio 2005
deprecated much of that console stuff in favour of better security,
and and they of course went to oldnames back in the 16 bit days, and
for those of us who use Microsoft C we have seen this standard change
over the years. I remember of course the AIX and HpUX and Solaris
boxes that I administrated and cut code on back in the 90's and those
users had the same perspective, with me supporting multi platform
Unises and Windows versions and stepping around the doogie on the
various sidewalks that led to those religious wars about who has the
better methodology.
Speaking frankly as a Windows User at home who couldn't justify a
MacPRO and who wouldn't run Linux at home (maybe a little Suse on
VMWare now and again) but develops in-it at work, if I was running
Linux at home as a C64 hobbysist I would be looking at CC65 probably.
If I was running XP (which I am) I would be grabbing Aztec-C from my
website and using that.
It is trivial to write structures that wrap memory and other easy
stuff like that and in fact most things about the C64 aren't really
all that difficult, which is why it's a fun toy.
Just to make one more point - the library source that I have written
is pretty much independent of any C compiler. And my samples that load
KOALA paint and ART images and do other cool stuff are standard K&R C
which is certainly not a stumbling block to being used in another
compiler environment on another platform.
So I am still none the wiser... Marc is it because I am really old
that I don't understand your reasons:)
Later,
Bill
PS - now ROFLMAO mostly at myself for playing with old stuff and
making world domination remarks. Peter Griffin is my hero followed
closely by Bill Gates<g>.
.
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