Re: Recovery of Disks project


"White Flame (aka David Holz)" <whiteflame52@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Hopefully something is recoverable.
>
> It is not.

Yep, there is NO immediate way to do it in any cost effective way.

To Paul Panks,

Lets clearly OUTLINE why such a data recovery service are used primarily by
only by organizations with sensitive data that can not be lost. WHY ????

These organizations could be sued for millions of dollars so paying $2-3K
the amount is quite affordable for such a service when you compare the
alternative. BUT the situation is QUITE different for a person whose money
is NOTHING of this level. Lets see outline why - the average joe working a
full-time minimum wage job (8 hrs a day, 40 hrs a week at about $6.50-$7/hr
and consider withholdings is something like $4.5-$6.25 an hour. Consider an
average of $5 per hr. Lets see, at that amount - you are looking at $200 a
month would be well figured but lets say that you don't get much withholding
like 10-20 withheld. I would figure something in the range of $245-280 a
week (for a payrate ranging between $6.50 - $7.50) is taken home.

So lets figure what 52 weeks is: $12,740-$14,560 a year. Now, I would
consider that we would be looking at 2.5-3 months worth of money would be
blown away on a maybe.

Lets think a moment that you would be paying $2,500-$3,000 for a typical
disk recovery - if I read the one site correctly) for a disk that you can
buy blank for less then say $2. Possibly less than $1. Lets really think
about this - why would you want to spend SO much money on a data recovery.
Is there really a financial incentive ? Like a possibly lawsuit ????

Hell, most companies find it simply more cost effective to have a daily
backup system and immediately backup any important data in case of such a
problem. It is by far cheaper to have a backup copy. Especially on a
proprietary format such a Commodore - YOU really need to be careful as this
is well beyond what these companies staff is trained to deal with.

The cheapest option by expense is not worry about it and move on. The second
cheapest maybe to modify an existing Commodore disk drive but I don't know
for sure about that. Also it may yield better results than these companies
would because it would be engineered by Commodore people whom are familiar
with Commodore with assitance by people familar with data recovery from
disks. But getting people willing to do this WOULD be fun part. How many
people would be interested in doing such ?

>> It would be a shame if not.
>
> It is a shame.

It is a shame because of the LACK of making a backup copy before any
reformatting or updating of any files. At least by doing that, you would
have had at least a safe copy. ALSO, ALWAYS do the scratch and Saving as two
seperate processes. It is MORE safer. But fixing a scratch & replace bug is
easier than trying to recover from a full format. Especially from a 1541.
They are SO reliable in making disk formats. Which helps to really guarantee
that recovery is essentially impossible after full format. Again Paul - the
1541s are SO GOOD at loading, saving, scratching and formatting that it is a
good guarantee that after a good full format that previous data is very well
GONE and this is why 1541 formatted disks rarely are corrupted from having
previous data on the disk coming back after a good clean full format.

Hence why the 1541 is one of my favorite Commodore disk drives - it is so
reliable despite the Scratch with Replace bug - but I usually don't use such
a command. I would probably just chain the commands with both a Scratch
command and a Save command seperated by a "colon" - :

Enough said for now.








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