Re: Update #4 coming

> + On 02-Jan-06 06:40:16
+Clockmeister <no-one@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote

>>>Never had to. Their automatic updates have never caused me grief either.
>>
>> Lucky you.
>>
>> The automatic updates only gives problem for people not running a legal
>> copy, or people with no good connection to internet..

>First part no, second part yes. Automatic updates work perfectly well on
>dodgy installs.

No, not if you have a stolen serialnumber, wich many people have.

>> Lucky enough I have free licenses for all MS operatingsystem so I can
>> easilly update my gamingmachine (that is running XP) at home, but since
>> i never ever would pay for windows I would have some troubles if I
>> couldn't.

>No you wouldn't.

huh ? ofcoz I would if I used a serial number that got blocked.

>> (Probably I wouldn't update it and only rely on my (BSD based) firewall,
>> unfortunatly firewalls are pretty bad protection, especially for windows.)

>My hardware firewall works fine.

...I could tell you about many scenarios where a firewall is totally
useless, but I can take an example:

You go into a cute webpage with your internet explorer, on that
webpage there is code that IE runs due to one of the holes in it,
that code opens up a tunnel to a hacked machine in russia with
IE on port 80, then a someone log onto that machine and gain access
to your machine, and start to hack pentagon with it.. ..your firewall
did nothing coz it only saw webtraffic on the correct port, originating
from a correct program (IE)

...There have been several similar bugs in IE..

Basically a firewall stops traffic that you want to have, and it still
doesnt make a good protection..

You can use firewalls for two things..

a) As an EXTRA protection
b) To remove "crap traffic" in your network so it doesnt show up in logs.



>> They maintain it yes, but they often do just as I pointed out before,
>> they workaround bugs instead of fixing them.
>>

>Well I can't think of any right now, can you?

I usally doesnt hold microsoft bugs in my head no.. UTFG :)

>>>They do fix them "for real".
>>
>> They are pretty wellknown for not doing that..

>By the anti-MS crowd no doubt. I used to be one of them btw.

Even people that actually like MS.. belive it or not..


>> Reminds me of when the windowspeople at work had to buy a new soundcard
>> for
>> ALL new dellcomputers since NT4 didnt support the one on the motherboard..

>I've never used NT, never really had any problems with hardware on 95/98 or
>XP though. (ME had some issues)

Lucky you..

>> Also reminds me of when i bought my old worklaptop and first installed
>> Fedora core4 on it thinking of keeping it for myself.. everything except
>> for the wavelan worked directly out of the box.. then I decided to give
>> it to my girlfriend and installed XP Pro on it, then it didnt have support
>> for the gfxcard, soundcard, ethernet or the wavelan out of the box.. after
>> hours looking for drivers at fujitsu-siemens homepage I finally got
>> everyting
>> except the wavelan to work..
>>
>> Lucky me that I had another computer with netaccess and a CD-burner..
>>

>That is because you didn't install the OEM version of Windows that came with
>the laptop.

Have you bought a laptop the last 5 years ? ..you kind of never get any CD
with them anymore.. too expensive I guess.. IBMat least have an option
so that you can boot from the standard install and then create a CD with
all the original drivers and software on it.. But I never seen that on other
brands unfortunatly.

Also since we have a license for all microsoft OS'es we buy the laptops
with cheapest possible version, and then reinstall it with what we want,
usally Linux+XP pro dualbooting.

Btw, did you know that it used to be cheaper to buy a laptop with
windows on it that one with linux on it ? ..thats sick.

.

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