Re: So long and thanks for all the fish.



In article <d1554ccb4e.druck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, druck <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On 29 Mar 2007 Steve Drain <steve@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
druck wrote:
After being one of the first subscribers and most ardent supporters of
the Select scheme during the first 3 years, I cancelled the subscription
when the scheme went in to the second year of failing to provide any
releases.

This is important, so I will stretch a rule and comment in one of these
silly threads.

I have been looking back at 2001 to confirm my memory. We both paid our
money early, and at that time you were indeed a strong advocate for ROL
and Select, and I was one of the doubters. I wondered what we would get
and how long it would take, because there were considerable delays.

There was a largely civilised, but heated, debate in the newsgroups and
maillist and you expressed strongly your disapproval of attitudes such as
mine, saying in effect that we should be patient because we would be
getting something worth the wait.

The difference between then and now, is back then I knew the programmers
that were working on it, I knew their vision for the future of RISC OS,
good progress was being made, and I could assure people that subscribed
that they would be getting value for their money.

Unfortunately that is no longer the case, Justin Fletcher the primary
driving force behind Select has lost interest and left, coincinding with
the stagnation of both the Select and A9 development. I'm afraid I've never
had any faith that Paul Middleton knows what to do with RISC OS either
technically, strategically or commercially. I don't feel the part time
developers ROL can draw on now, whist talented, can command either the vast
Knowledge of RISC OS internals or the vision for its on going developement
that gerph had.

It all sounds so plausible unless you realise that your inaccurate complaints
started years before Justin stopped, and that you have recently been told that
there are now both full time and part time developers involved in developing
that vision further.

RO SIX is still the vision that Justin had but if he lost interest then it may
well be the nasty, negative comments from the likes of David Ruck that had
their cumulative effect over the years.

--
John
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