Re: YouTube

On 30 Dec 2007 newpostcentral@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Andrew) wrote:

In message <gemini.jtjzxb000s5p7015w.ray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Ray Dawson <ray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

newpostcentral@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Andrew) wrote:

What format of video does YouTube use? Has RISC OS video software
development advanced at all in the past few years?

They are FLV flash format files. As to the latter question, probably not.

So given that nobody has the time, energy or will to port or write a
media player for RISC OS, before the situation becomes beyond farcical
would it be possible that we could *pay* dedicated professionals at
RISC OS Ltd, Castle (or associates) to do this? Nothing else has
emerged, there's no sign of anything but long-looking abandonware and
anybody who appeals too loudly for this gets criticised for not
contributing anything or being negative. It's a massive gap in RISC OS
given the popularity and importance of the internet these days.

Given that you are posting from a 14 year old Risc PC, you can forget
it anyway, you just don't have the horsepower to run any modern video
codecs. The Iyonix is the only machine which stands any chance, and
even thats doubtful.

I've got PDA with a 624MHz XScale and graphic accelarator that will
just about play WMV 9 format clips from the BBC News site, but wont
manage youtube Flash 7 (plays sound and the occational frame with long
pauses). The IOP XScale in the Iyonix has a faster memory system than
the PDAs AXP variant, so might just be able to manage FLV, but it
would be right on the limit.

Can we at least have a basic media player to set a precedent and at
least a starting point from the companies that make the hardware and
software that this platform is about?

I don't think you appreciate even what a "basic media player"
involves. Most of the video out there uses proprietary codecs (WMV and
RealPlayer used by the BBC) which we will never be able to implement.
The open formats of MPEG4 / H263 are complex processor intensive codes
so without multimedia instuctions in the ARM chip sets, or video
accelaration provided graphics cards, even the Iyonix isn't going to
be able to manage more than a postage card sized clip. The Cino DVD
player showed we can't even manage the relatively processor light
MPEG2 format at full quality.

So to summarise its not worth any developer wasting time on such a
media player, we just don't have the hardware for it. I'm afraid if
video is a requirement, its time to move on to another platform.

---druck

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