Re: NetSurf and JavaScript

In message <yANbj.21158$KC3.9141@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Rob Kendrick <nntp@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:49:01 +0000, Jess wrote:

Opera 8 on my SE W850i whips NetSurf in terms of speed and accessibility
of websites - it even has good JavaScript. Perhaps the version Nokia
ship is nobbled. Certainly, Opera's rendering and standards support is
superb enough to get you into 99% of websites - it even does Google Maps.

The biggest irritation on it was not doing my banking, which NS has
managed pretty much all along.

Firefox is large, slow and doesn't run on windows 95, on a newish PC
it's fine, but get something a bit old and it is little better than on
an Iyonix.

By "a bit old", you mean 12 years old and running Windows 95? That's not
a bit old: that's very old. If any users of such complained to a website
about it not working on their machine, I think they'd get laughed off by
the web master for running Windows 95 long before they get laughed off
for running NetSurf.

The Windows 95 comment and the old hardware were separate issues. The
particular user I'm thinking of with windows 95 has a PC that is no
where near as old as the OS, and it runs like lightning.

In general, software developers and web masters have no time for people
who are using 10 year old hardware and software - especially when
superior hardware and software is so cheap and/or free.

The web developers will be losing business for their clients then. Is
their aim to sell new PCs or the product on the website? The Windows
95 user will not be changing OS in any hurry, since he earns his
living from the machine.

Would netsurf not load like lightning?

(It does on Puppy linux)

Firefox does to here - in fact, NetSurf and Firefox take approximately
the same amount of time to load on my desktop. How quickly it loads is
only one part of the equation. I only load Firefox once a week or so, so
it hardly matters how long it takes.

I mean on a slower system, one measured in MHz not GHz.

I would be surprised if it were released and the number of windows users
didn't dwarf other platforms in next to no time.

People use NetSurf broadly for two reasons (ignoring platforms here):
1. They believe it to be the best browser for their platform,
2. They need a resource-constrained browser for their old puny PC
or embedded project.

I am not aware of anybody who runs NetSurf in preference to Firefox on a
machine that runs Firefox quickly. Why should we think Windows users
would be any different?

Because windows users cover a broad spectrum of people. Some want a
simpler system.

Netsurf offers something different, it is small and lean. Many people
don't want all the frills.

But most people just want something that makes eBay and Google Maps look
right, and the number of those people make these "no frills" people you
insist exist in number pale into insignificance.

I disagree, it is a fair proportion. I encounter quite a few people
who would fall into that category.

I'd like to see a Windows port, if only to get more developers
interested, as quite a few people have submitted patches to us recently
from playing about with it on Linux for various reasons (it not doing
JavaScript not being one of them.)

You come across as though you think of it more as an intellectual
challenge, rather than something that is really rather good and
useful.

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