All Pole representation of LPC



Hi
I am reffering to the following discussion from:
http://www.dsprelated.com/groups/speechcoding/show/340.php
which states that :

From the book "Digital Processing of Speech Signals" by Rabiner &
Schafer,
We have the following comments:

“we may use the fact that effect of zero of the transfer function can
be achieved by including more poles." (page 99).
As a proof of the above statement, the reader is asked to refer to the
Problem 3.10 on page 112, which I repeat here:

"Show that if |a| < 1,
1-a*z^(-1) = 1/(summation(a^n * z^(-n))), where n goes
from 0 to infinity"

and thus, any zero “inside the unit circle” ( |a| < 1,) can be
approximated as closely as desired by multiple poles."

My question is whether we can extend the proof to the zeros outside
the unit circle also and whether the following statement is valid:

"any zero" of a fractional transfer function -inside or outside the
unit circle- can be approximated as closely as desired by multiple
poles."

I need this for application of lpc method on a general fractional
trandfer function.
.



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