Re: xPC taget CPU - Athlon or Intel
- From: "Keith Williams" <kwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:46:51 -0400
Hello,
With regards to this issue of AMD vs. Intel and XPC Target, I have
two questions:
First, can I use an Athlon 64-equipped machine as my target? I would
like to build a new target box to outperform my old AMD T-Bird
machine, but I didn't want to buy a 64-bit cpu (say socket 939) and
then find out that I couldn't use it except as a desktop.
Second, assuming that I can use the 64-bit cpu, does the 64-bit
behavior handicap the system in any way, as compared to if I was
using an Athlon XP? My purchase choices will be between an Athlon XP
3200+ (333 MHz FSB) and an Athlon 64 3000+ ("scalable?" FSB).
I recognize that you may not be able to provide buying advice; I'm
just looking to see if I first, be able to use an Athlon 64 and
second, if I will be hurting myself by going that route vs. an Athlon
XP.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Regards,
Keith Williams
Gordon Weast wrote:
>
>
> Adam,
>
> Unfortunately, we haven't been able to reproduce the results that
> we found for that one 3 Ghz P4 machine. We borrowed it from our IT
> department, ran the benchmark and then returned it. Now it's in
> use
> by someone as their desktop machine. We're sure we got those
> results,
> but it seems like we have to send it to the journal of
> irreproducible
> results because we can't find another machine that performs as
> well.
>
> It is likely that a machine that performs well for high end gaming
> might also perform well with xPC Target in realtime use. Graphics
> performance is irrelevant to xPC Target but CPU/Cache/memory
> performance is important to both.
>
> I suppose if we got enough results that included CPU speed, FSB
> speed
> and chipset type, we might see some trends. At the present time,
> we
> don't have that information. Do any current machines still use
> that
> configuration where they let the graphics board use part of main
> memory? I would expect that to kill performance by adding wait
> states
> when the CPU needs to fill a cache line.
>
> Gordon Weast
> xPC Target Development
> The Mathworks
>
> Adam Hersbach wrote:
>
>> Gordon,
>>
>> I have recently tested two Intel Pentium4 3.0 GHz CPU's from
>> different manufacturers (using .NET03 compiler). The benchmark
> tests
>> show a 20% difference in performance, and the best machine
> performs
>> at only 75% of what the Mathworks reports in the xpcbench test
> for a
>> P4 3.0 GHz machine.
>>
>> Through our experience with xPC target and recent support from
> the
>> Mathworks, the difference between the two machines that I have
> tested
>> is due to the chipset/motherboard used by the different
>> manufacturers, not the CPU itself, as you have commented.
>>
>> The performance varies so markedly, that we cannot run our
>> simulations on these machines. We need something that performs
at
>> least slightly better than the reported performance of the AMD
> 2800+
>> .NET03 (and if possible as good as the reported performance of
> the P4
>> 3.0 GHz .NET03).
>>
>> Can you suggest anything?
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> Gordon Weast wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>If anyone does have some benchmark results for processors,
please
>>>include the front side bus speed. That will make a
difference.
>>>I would expect the chipset that a given motherboard uses to
make
>>>some difference as well.
>>>
>>>There are just too many combinations for us to test all of
them
>>>so input from users is important to us as well.
>>>
>>>Gordon Weast
>>>xPC Target Development
>>>The Mathworks
>>>
>>>Adam Hersbach wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>Does anyone have xpcbench data for any of the following
CPU's:
>>>>
>>>>Athlon XP 3000+ (2.167 GHz)
>>>>Athlon XP 3200+ (2.200 GHz)
>>>>Athlon 64 4000+ (2.4 GHz)
>>>>Athlon 64 FX-55 (2.6 GHz)
>>>>Athlon 64 FX-57 (2.8 GHz)
>>>>
>>>>Intel Pentium4 > 3.0 GHz
>>>>
>>>>Would greatly appreciate this data as we are trying to
find a
>>
>> CPU
>>
>>>>which is as fast as possible.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Adam
>>>
>
.
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