Re: Where is behavior AI now?
- From: "dpa" <dpa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 28 Aug 2006 16:40:21 -0700
RMDumse wrote:
<snip>
So perhaps it cannot act as intelligent as you, perhaps because it does<snip>
not have the sensors
But that was not your premise, as I understand it. You wrote:
How many different behaviors (evidenced by output actions) can jBot have?
1) Left stop, right stop? 2) Left forward, right stop? 3) Left forward,
right forward? 4) ...
We only have 12 musical notes. So how many different melodies
can be written? Can you calculate it with some simple connection
matrix? Is it 12 factorial? Is there a limit?
I reject the premise that the variety of robot behaviors is limited
by the number of output resources, or can be determined by some
simple connection matrix, as referenced in my original query, to wit:
That limited
output resources (i.e., 2 drive motors) somehow translates
into limited behaviors?
Your response, a proposed experiment in a metal room, concerns itself
with limiting input sensors, not output resources, and so strikes me
as irrelevant.
Let me try again. Musicians have been able to get an infinite
variety of music from the same 12 notes since the time of the
ancient Greeks. The variety and "intelligence" of the music
does not seem to be limited by the limited nature of the "output
resources."
Similary, a remotely piloted vehicle, as an extension of the
human operating it, has an infinite variety of behaviors, as
varied as the imagination of its operator. The attempt to limit
the complex world of "behavior" to some combination of motor
movements strikes me as naive, like suggesting that because
there are only 88 keys on a piano keyboard, that somehow limits
the number of possible piano pieces that can be composed.
Clearly we have a long way to go before our robot's autonomous
behaviors begin to resemble the intelligence and creativity of that
same robot as operated by a human. Until that is achieved, it seems
pointless to assume that advances in AI are being held back by the
lack of output resources.
It seems to me that the lack of perceived intelligent behavior in
our robots is not a function of their lack of output resources, but
rather how those resources are used. If you accept that as true,
then I think the rest of your conjecture falls apart.
In fact you may remember from our last action-packed episode,
the somewhat heretical observation that sophisticated robot
behavior arises from REDUCING the number of possible states,
which I still think is worthy of further contemplation.
as always,
dpa
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