Re: Where is behavior AI now?

dpa wrote:
For example, when I drive the R/C camera car, its behavior is
distinctively more intelligent than when the robot is driving itself,
especially interacting with other humans. And it is limited to the
same two output motors in both cases.

Then perhaps you haven't programmed the robot all that well (not a
serious suggestion here, but retorical argument for sake of
amplification of missing pieces.) As soon as it sees humans, it should
do a humor act like you do when you see a human close by. Oh, but it
does have eyes does it? Well, what's the point of a humor output if it
can't tell if there is anyone there to see it! (Hummm... Is the problem
the humor act, or is the knowing when to do it?)

So perhaps it cannot act as intelligent as you, perhaps because it does
not have the sensors to detect occassions for humor, or perhaps it
doesn't have the dexterity in its fingers that you do on the RC
controls. Opps. It doesn't have fingers does it? But surely, if your
fingers can tickle the RC controls to jiggle-giggle (or however you
express humor) the robot could make the same motor command outputs
without the controller, that you can with the control, too, right?

So now, about that jiggle-giggle thing. What combinations of motor
control does it take to do them? We go both forward for a while, then
both back for a while, then forward left, back right, then back left
forward right, then pause, then repeat...

Which one of these "behaviors" is it the robot can't do?

My answer, none. I see the atomic "both forward" as a behavior. Also I
see the atomic "left forward right back" as a behavior. I see all those
quantifiably different output combinations as atomic behaviors.

But the jiggle-giggle thing? Right now I'm wondering if that isn't a
behavior at all. It's something else. It's a time sequenced exhibition
of behaviors. It is an attempt to send "morse code" by patterning
behaviors.

Hence I suggest, "It occurs to me that artificial intelligence will be
found in the decisions that switch behaviors rather than the layers of
behavior themselves."

Given limited outputs, I suspect we can list all possible (or observed)
outputs. So being in some state of output becomes quantifiable. But, it
is the transitions between those states which shows the intelligence.

The complexity of the robot's behavior and the intelligence,
even humor, inferred from that behavior does not seem to
depend on the limited-ness of the output resources, but
rather on the way they are manipulated.

Okay, I offer a proposal. Let's put you in a steel box with your RC
controller (antenna outside) but you have no vision of where you are
going, you have no sense of the roughness of the terrain, you have no
camera to see when humans are approaching your robot, you have only
this feedback: You have five numbers that represent ranges. You have
current indications in motors. You have a few numbers showing compass
heading and inertia changes. Now I'll bet you, your robot will look
much more intelligent without your help, than you will with full
control.

Again I think the intelligence is not in creating robots with behaviors
(BBR's). If the outputs are few, and the inputs also few, all possible
behaviors are pretty quickly delineated. The emmergence in intelligence
is instead in the sequencing of the behaviors.


even though I seldom place a close on my posts, let it be assumed as
implied and understood, always, best regards,

Randy
www.newmicros.com

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