Re: Why did my drive blow up?




"BRW" <bennet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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My first attempt at building a high-current H-bridge failed miserably.
I was trying to drive a pair of windshield wiper motors on a robot with
a new H-bridge that I built using discrete MOSFETs (HRF3205) with
HIP4081A drivers. I got the design from a Nuts & Volts article. One of
the MOSFETs literally exploded. I don't think it was a build problem
since my friend built a drive from the same design and tested it
completely with a small motor. Two of his MOSFETs exploded when
connected to the big motors.

The only thing I can think that would have caused this is flyback
voltages that the MOSFET zener diodes did not suppress. I thought that
the zener diodes built into the MOSFETs would protect the circuit from
flyback voltages (so did the author of the Nuts & Volts article). Maybe
these built-in diodes are only effective for small loads.

Am I right about the cause for explosion? If I need to add diodes for
flyback suppression, how should I size them? I'm building this drive to
handle 20A.

Thanks,

BRW

Didn't do my trick from a few years back ?
driving a largish motor, fine when taking the load
but when the load drove the motor
the control board (not the driver board)
started smoking and the chip I was using (8051) melted.

Feedback path was the ground link between the boards
and local chasis ground in the box I had them in.

Driver board still works.

Just waiting on some new high current h bridges from bdmicro.com

Brian hasn't got them listed on his site yet
but you can see them here
http://www.bdmicro.com/include/display_image.php?img=rx50-4_sm.jpg
and here http://www.bdmicro.com/darpa-gc/

specs are

* 5 to 24 Volts (30V absolute max)

* Current: 8 to 10 Amps no heat sinks
40 to 50 Amp w/good heat sinks
(upper end not yet determined)

* mounting holes for standard 60mm CPU-type fan for extra cooling
capacity

* header to power fan (uses motor supply voltage)

* PWM freq over 100 kHz

* adaptive non-overlapping gate drive - eliminates shoot-thru

* built-in ATO style fuse

* locked anti-phase control native, sign magnitude / synchronous
rectification possible with adapter logic board (included)

* 5 LED indicators

* solid 4-layer board w/large power and ground planes

* 2.5 x 2.6 inches

* easy to use FAST-ON blade type connectors for power

* convenient screw terminals for logic


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