Re: A question about capacity planning and scalability [2]...





Hello again,

I will continu...

I wrote before that:

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And of course on Capacity Planning for Enterprise Datacenters
and Websites , you can mirror many computer servers and load
balance between them with a software... to make the system much
FASTER, and this will be modeled as a Jackson network like this:

(1)

A -> M/M/n Server Queue -> M/M/1 Network queue ->
-> M/M/1 Client queue -> A


A: the arrival rate to the system"

--

We know also from an operational law of queuing theory that:

(2) the rate of job leaving any stable node must equal
its arrival rate.


We know for an M/M/c queue that:

Note: try to add servers with almost the same hardware
configuration...

C(c, U) = Erlang formula = P(c) / (1 - Utilization)

note: c the number of servers..

P(c): means the probability that all the servers are busy

P(0): means the probability that there is no waiting time in the
queue, that means also: AT LEAST one server among the C servers
are not busy...

The average waiting time in the 'queue' =
C(c,U) / (service rate x c x (1 - Utilization)) (3)

It's approximatly equal to:

Utilization^C/(service rate x (1 - Utilization^C)

Note: ^ means power

This approximation is exact for the M/M/1 and M/M/2 models,
but 'slightly' lower than the result in (3) if c > 2

and

Utilization = Density of circulation / C (number of servers)

Note: ^ means power()
and C means the number of servers

Response time = The average waiting time in the 'queue' +
(1 / service rate)

average numbers of users in the system = service rate x response time
average number of users in queue = service rate x average waiting time
in the 'queue'


Now as i said before:

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So the equation for

Ni: number of jobs in each queue
Ui: utilization of each queue


Ni = Ui / (1-Ui)


Adding all the Ni in each individual queue will give the
average number of jobs in the entire queuing network.


After that we apply the Little formula:


A: network arrival rate
T: average response time


N = A*T => T = N / A

And after that from the mathematical analytical equation
we can simulate the jackson queuing network that model our
webservers...

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If we try to calculate the Ni = Ui / (1-Ui) in
the Jackson network, and from the operational law (2) above
this will give us:

Ns for the M/M/n Server queue is:

(DC / n) / (1 - (DC/n))

and DC = Ss / A => Ns = ((Ss/A)/n) / (1 -((Ss/A)/n))

Ss: service rate at the queuing server.
A: Arrival rate to the jackson network

DC: is the Density of circulation
n: number of servers


And Nn for the M/M/1 Network queue is:

and Utilization in the M/M/1 network queue = Sn / A
this imply that => Nn = (Sn/A) / (1 -(Sn/A))

Nn: number of jobs in the M/M/1 network queue node
Un: Utilization in the network queue node
Sn: service rate at the queuiNg server.
A: Arrival rate to the jackson network


And Nc for the M/M/1 Client queue node is:

and Uc= Sc / A
this imply that => Nc = (Sc/A) / (1 -(Sn/A))

Nc: number of jobs in the M/M/1 client queue node
Uc: Utilization in the M/M/1 client queue node
Sc: service rate at the queuiNg server.
A: Arrival rate to the Jackson network


Adding all the Ni in each individual queue will
give the average number of jobs in the entire
queuing network that is equal to:

Ni = Nn + Ns + Nc
= (((Ss/A)/n) / (1 -((Ss/A)/n)) + (Sn/A) / (1 -(Sn/A))
+ (Sc/A) / (1 -(Sn/A))


After that we apply the Little formula:


A: network arrival rate
T: average response time


N = A*T => T = N / A

this imply that the T(the average response time in the Jackson
network)
is:

T = Ni /A = (Nn + Ns + Nc) /A
= (((Ss/A)/n) / (1 -((Ss/A)/n)) + (Sn/A) / (1 -(Sn/A))
+ (Sc/A) / (1 -(Sn/A))) / A

Now finally we have our mathematical analytic equation
and we can begin to simulate our Enteprise webserver
and also validate the performance data with the fwptt stress
webserver simulation tool...

And don't forget what i have said about USL:


"Suppose we have obtained a small number of measured
load-points with Loadrunner or others tools, and we
calculated the USL equation to predict scalability of
a webserver , how the USL model can predict if the
scalability/performance is limited by the network bandwidth
and not the server ? I think USL can not predict this."

Also i wrote about USL that:

"As you have noticed , this mathematical model of
this jackson network does in fact take into account
the M/M/1 Network queue node , the USL model can not
do this... and with this performance data from the mathematical
analytical model simulation we can for example validate
the performance data of the fwptt stress webserver simulation.."



Regards,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
http://pages.videotron.com/aminer/


On Sep 8, 9:11 am, aminer <ami...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 8, 7:48 am, aminer <ami...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





Hello,

I have cleaned all my previous posts , please read again...

I didn't know where to ask this question, so i decided to ask here..

I just read yesterday the following page, look at the the USL
(Universal Law of Computational Scalability) of Dr. Gunther,
he wrote this:  ( seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_J._Gunther)

--------------------------

The relative capacity C(N) of a computational platform is given by:

C(N)  =              N
                   -------------------
          1 + α (N - 1) + β N (N - 1)

where N represents either the number of physical processors
in the hardware configuration or the number of users driving the
software application. The parameters α and β represent respectively
the levels of contention (e.g., queueing for shared resources) and
coherency delay (i.e., latency for data to become consistent) in the
system. The â parameter also quantifies the retrograde throughput
seen
in many stress tests but not accounted for in either Amdahl's law or
event-based simulations.

----------

His website:http://www.perfdynamics.com/

If you read carefully , you will see that Dr. Gunther is using this
model to predict scalability after he simulates a relatively small
number of vusers in LoadRunner ( because of licensing costs, it's
cost-effective)  and after that he finds the coefficients of the
2nd-degree polynomial (quadratic equation) and then transform
those coefficients back to the USL parameters using the α = b - a
and β = a.

And then he is extrapolating with the USL model to higher loads
to predict scalability.

He is also applying the model to webservers  with heterogeneous
workloads. like in the following page:

http://perfdynamics.blogspot.com/2009/04/assessing-usl-scalability-wi...

Now  my question follows:

Suppose we have obtained a small number of  measured load-points
with Loadrunner or others tools, and we calculated the USL equation
to predict scalability of a webserver , how the USL model can predict
if
the scalability/performance is limited by the network bandwidth and
not the server ?  I think USL can not predict this.

When we are modeling webservers , we  have to include
the network&tcp/ip in our network queuig model
(that comprises the queue of  the computer server side) ,
and since the service in the computer server is comprised of
multiple services (when we are using htmls , databases etc.)
the network&tcp/ip queue will not be markovian in the service
side, and we have to model the network&tcpip queue as an M/G/1
and this will complicate the mathematical analytic modeling...

So,  i think the best way is to use a webserver stress tool
like  http://fwptt.sourceforge.net/

You can even test the webserver  with an heterogeneous
workloads by starting multiple fwtpp processes, and
you should increase the number of threads to 5 and after
that to 10 threads, 15 ... and so on until the webserver
applications stops responding propperly(and this will inform
on the maximum number of users that you can have in the same time...)
and as you are stress testing you can even see (by testing/measuring
it) if the network bandwidth is not the bottleneck... and this can
not be done by the USL model.

We already know that to satisfy a Poisson process we must
have that N(t1)- N(t0), N(t2)- N(t1) etc. must be independant
that means the counting increments must be independant.

We have the following relation between the Poisson law
and Exponential law:

the expected value E(X exponential) = 1 / E(X poisson)

and if the arrival is poissonian then the interarrivals are
exponential..

Now what about a webserver ?

I have read the following paper:

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:JFYCp_dSPP4J:citeseerx.ist.....

And it says that a simple model with M/M/1/k with FCFS discipline
can predict webserver performance quite well..

Hence,  i think we can model our webserver over internet
with 3 queues connected as a Jackson Network like this

A ->  M/M/1 Server Queue -> M/M/1 Network queue -> M/M/1 Client queue -

A

A: is the arrival rate

and we have the following:

Ni: number of jobs in each queue
Ui: utilization of each  queue

Ni =  Ui / (1-Ui)

Adding all the Ni in each individual queue will give the
average number of jobs in  the entire queuing network.

After that we apply the Little formula:

A: network arrival rate
T: average response time

N = A*T  => T = N / A

And after that from the mathematical analytical equation
we can simulate the jackson queuing network that model our
webservers...

Now there is still an important question that i have:

Our analytical jackson network model can give us insight
on the webservers behavivior.. but the difficulty  that i find in
practice is that: suppose we have found the right parametters
that we want to choose, like for example the service rate of
the M/M/1 Server Queue , how , from this service rate, can
we buy the right computer that satisfies the service rate
that we want ?

We say in OR that:

"Understanding the behavior of a system is what Queueing Theory
and Little’s Law is all about. But, managing a Queue requires not
just understanding the behavior of a system, but also in-depth
knowledge of how to improve a system — improving both aspects
of Queueing will mean a better, more efficient and cost-effective
system and, more importantly, a much better customer experience."

I wrote before that:

---

"It says that a simple model with M/M/1/k with FCFS discipline
can predict webserver performance quite well..
Hence,  i think we can model our webserver over internet
with 3 queues connected as a Jackson Network like this
A -> M/M/1 Server Queue -> M/M/1 Network queue -> M/M/1 Client queue -> A

A: the arrival rate
and we have the following:
Ni: number of jobs in each queue
Ui: utilization of each  queue
Ni =  Ui / (1-Ui)
Adding all the Ni in each individual queue will give the
average number of jobs in  the entire queuing network.
After that we apply the Little formula:
A: network arrival rate
T: average response time
N = A*T  => T = N / A
And after that from the mathematical analytical equation
we can simulate the jackson queuing"

--

As you have noticed , this mathematical model of
this jackson network does in fact take into account
the  M/M/1 Network queue node , the USL model can not
do this... and with this performance data from the mathematical
analytical model simulation  we can for example validate
the performance data of the fwptt stress webserver simulation..

But you have to take into account worst cases and the
peak traffic loads...

Let for example we have a a webserver hosting html pages
and it is receiving 1000000 HTTP operations
per day with an average file  size of 10 KB.

What would be the network bandwidth required for this website
considering peak traffic if the peak traffic load from past
observations was four times greater than average loads?

Required bandwidth is solved by the following equation:

HTTP op/sec x average file size or

1000000 HTTP ops per day =1000000/24 = 41,667 op/hour =
41,667/3600= 11.6 HTTP ops/sec

The needed bandwidth is

11.6 HTTP ops/sec X 10 KB/HTTP op = 116 KB/sec = 928 Kbps.

If we assume a protocol overhead of 20% then the actual throughput
required is 928 Kbps X 1.2 = 1,114 Kbps.

However if peak loads as we say before is as much as

i mean: as i said before...





4 times greater, the bandwidth required to handle spikes
would be 4 X 1,114 Kbps = 4.456 Mbps.

So you have to think also about the cost of this line...

I will add the following:

As you have noticed i said that:

"As you have noticed , this mathematical model of
this jackson network does in fact take into account
the  M/M/1 Network queue node , the USL model can not
do this... and with this performance data from the mathematical
analytical model simulation  we can for example validate
the performance data of the fwptt stress webserver simulation.."

and i said that:

"Hence,  i think we can model our webserver over internet
with 3 queues connected as a Jackson Network like this
An M/M/1 Server Queue -> M/M/1 Network queue -> M/M/1 Client queue"

And of course on Capacity Planning for Enterprise Datacenters
and Websites , you can mirror many computer servers and load
balance between them with a software... to make the system much
FASTER, and this will be modeled as a jackson network like this:

A -> M/M/n Server Queue -> M/M/1 Network queue -> M/M/1 Client queue -

A

A: the arrival rate to the system"

But there is still an important thing , as i have showed before
on my calculations:

"However if peak loads as we say before is as much as

i mean: as i said before...

4 times greater, the bandwidth required to handle spikes
it would be 4 X 1,114 Kbps = 4.456 Mbps.

So you have to think also about the cost of this line..."

I think that you have also to take into account the knee utilisation
of your M/M/n Servers Queues, if for example the number of computer
servers is 8 and the Knee is 74%  that means that in our previous
example the bandwidth must equal to:

126% X 4.456 Mbps =  5.614 Mbps.

Cause as you know, over this Knee of 74% for 8 servers

I mean: above this knee of 74%



the curve of the waiting time does grow quickly ..

And we have to take into account the cost of the line ...

So be smarter !

Regards,
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