Re: Tsk , tsk :-)
- From: Bruce <XXbg2gX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:01:48 -0400
Don,
After a year of reading your posts, you get no sympathy from me and I don't see why you expect any support from others.
You have a history of blind incessant attacks on VueScan, and direct personal attacks on anyone who says anything supportive of VueScan. (The "rabid" VueScan users)
You don't curse much, but consistently bait anyone who disagrees with you using aggressive attacks on their competence and integrity. Then, when they respond, you try to claim that you did not start the belligerence.
Your "informative" posts are dangerous because you have several axes to grind and are willing to distort your "facts" to fit. If directly caught in a factual error, you go first to abstrusification (your specialty), then to personal attacks, then to lies and misdirection and finally (when others chime in) you claim you are being unjustly picked on by a pack of bullies. At this point you might also post under pseudonyms to provide fake support.
That you think that Bart has anything to do with any of this recent sad mess is just another example of your inflated ego.
Roger's description of "New Don" as vigilante justice seems apt.
I do not agree with the vigilante's tactics, but if his actions might force you to look at your own aggressive anti-social behavior that poisons this group and brought this flame war on, those few "regulars" left who do not already filter you would be happy.
Don wrote:
On 1 Aug 2006 15:13:55 -0700, "Roger S." <rsmith02@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:.
You don't ask a victim of aggression to stop defending themselves.You can "defend yourself" without adopting the tactics of your
Appeasement has never stopped a bully and only encourages more aggression.
tormentor. If you stay in the Don persona and wrote reasonable,
helpful posts, you'd win the support of others, which is ultimately
what this is about, the rest of us. You'll never win over your
persecutor.
I only write reasonable, helpful posts! And there is no torment or
persecution. Just Bart's anti-social behavior that hurts the group.
That does nothing to Don. How can an anonymous entity (a "Don") be
hurt? That just doesn't make sense. The only person hurting is Bart as
can been seen from his ever increasing overexcitement.
Anyway, this has nothing to do with any one person. It's about the
group. And if the group came down on the *initiator* - and this is
important - *regardless* of what they think of the initiator (love him
or hate him) this would have been over by now.
How does that go: "I disagree with what you say but I'll defend your
right to say it". Conversely, if this group (in unison) made it clear
to the initiator (after the very *first* fake):
We agree/disagree with what you're saying but faking messages is not
the way to go about it. It does nothing to Don but only hurts the rest
of us.
If everyone did that, the initiator would realize the futility and we
would never be where we are now. Until the group as a whole takes a
stand this is bound to erupt again.
*This has nothing to do with Bart*
It has *everything* to do with Bart.
He's been stewing silently for years. Occasionally he erupts with
rabid vitriol but that apparently did not give him the satisfaction so
he now resorted to antisocial behavior. That's not working either so
he's now locked into a spiral he can't get out of without (in his
mind) losing face. Of course, by continuing he just makes it worse.
You like to (armchair) analyze, right? Can't you see the same patterns
here? Specifically, Bart's inability to analyze things e.g. what the
consequences his revelation of Ed supplying log data will mean? Not to
mention the meticulous attention to detail you yourself pointed out.
Etc. Or the red-hot rage after his identity has been revealed. That
really touched a raw nerve! Who else would waste so much time or care
that someone else's identity was revealed? No, this really cut Bart to
the bone. That's why he's so totally out of control now.
It is more logical to think that a poster tired of the incessant Don
anti-Vuescan hyperbole decided to jump in and try to lessen your
influence by posting evidence of your hypocrisy under your name. If
this were a regulated community, you'd have been expelled by now (and
so would the fake poster if he/she persisted.) It's not regulated, so
we have this sort of vigilante justice.
Don't look now Roger, but your bias is showing.
If this were a regulated community Don's "critics" are the ones that
would've been expelled.
Don never used profanity or engaged in anti-social behavior. His
"critics" do all the time. Have you forgotten that Don never responds
to insults and name calling? Of course, if Bart had done that instead
of faking messages, he would've been ignored.
If you were a bigger person, you'd stop perpetuating it as it goesIt doesn't matter who started it.
against what you claim to stand for. Are *you* a reasonable person?
Absolutely! But what you suggest is appeasement and surrender to a
bully, not reason.
You don't expect the victim to bow down and then blame the victim if
they refuse to take aggression lying down. You blame the aggressor.
Don.
:-)
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