Re: Kodak Printers??

Arthur Entlich (e-printerhelp@xxxxxxxx) writes:
What may save us all isn't so much Kodak, although kudos to them for
challenging the current business model, but the EU, which is demanding
by legislation that waste be cut. The EU has been amazingly clear
headed when it comes to issues like toxic materials, landfill waste, and
overall pollution, and the pressure will continue to build by both those
countries who don't think they should shoulder all the responsibility,
and the population in other non EU countries, who, seeing what the EU
has required of manufacturers, will start demanding the same for themselves.

I suggest people watch the EU countries closely and then start
indicating the same demands of manufacturers in terms of protection from
dangerous chemicals, waste reduction and technologies which otherwise
restrict or reduce pollution.

Manufacturers always cry "we can't" and "it will bankrupt us" because
all change costs some money to implement. But amazingly, as soon as
legislation draws a line in the sand where the choice is "make it right
or we won't buy it", they amazingly figure out how to fulfill the demands.

Art


I can forsee a day when U.S. "made" (designed, specified) products are
boycotted by EU citizens, until they meet rational resource and recycling
standards.

Brendan


Richard Steinfeld wrote:

Chuck wrote:

When a "pemanent" print head fails, usually a few years after the printer
was purchased,
a new printer of equal or better speed and resolution costs less than the
replacement head, if it can even be gotten.
Sometimes the printer OEM has rebuilt printers for less than the list
price
of the head. This usually occurs when the printer is at the end of it's
support from the OEM.


It'll be interesting to watch Kodak's performance play out. I have
reasons for wanting to keep old faithful products as long as possible.
I'm hanging back to protect myself against the nasty cartel screwing
that users have been taking from the big printer makers -- chipped
cartridges, cartridges suddenly becoming unusable due to arbitrary code
embedded in the printer, etc.

So, with planned obsolescence in mind, an issue for me with printers
that have "permanent" heads is:
- How easy or difficult is it to get in there and replace the head?
- Will the manufacturer sell me new heads?
- Are the heads affordable, or are they a "gotcha" ripoff?

Until they prove otherwise, I will assume that the printer makers will
continue playing the same game and _increasingly_ stiffing the consumer.

Kodak's behavior with their new printer line has yet to be seen. It'll
be important to be able to refill their cartridges since the company has
a long history of abandoning support for products that didn't work out
quite the way that they expected. My experience is that corporate
behavior doesn't really change very much.


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