Re: no such thing as a "generic" printer...



William R. Walsh wrote:

Hi!



Unfortunately, what we have to contend with here is a generic troll. When
he doesn't like the message he attacks the messenger.



True. I do, however, maintain the original statement. It has nothing to do
for or against measekite--it's just the truth about generic printer drivers.
They do exist, and they do give you a "generic" printer in a manner of
speaking.




socket to em. they cannot stand when someone else sees the light and even remotely agrees with me. my god (if there is one) that is sacreligious.

Personally speaking, I've both bad and good results from refilling ink

the reason is obvious. the relabelers that sell the stuff will not tell you what they are selling. since there is no brand to follow in the marketplace it is impossible to tell what is better and what is worse. topping that off what you may get from a relabeler in january may be different from what you get in april. they change there supplier if they get a better price or for other business reasons.

and
toner cartridges. In recent times it looks like the big name office stores
(at least in the US) are getting into the game of selling refilled
cartridges. I don't think they're going to be in the business of selling
junk that will ruin printers.

that is not really true. staples sells generic junk that people have had problems with. even the simple generic stuff is not as good. i bought a generic printer ribbon with a nukote label on it and the quality was no where near as good as the oem. you ge what you pay for but in this case the oems were not selling ribbons in staples.

It won't do well for the reputation they have
with their customer base.

Neither do I think that NCR or Pelikan/NuKote is going to be selling a
product of dubious quality.

they are of dubious quality. see my remark above and that was before i got down here.

I've not yet been let down by their cartridges
in a DeskJet 560C.

in the case of a deskjet you only have to worry about a leaky cart of poor results. you cannot clog a printhead since you get a different one with each cart change.

(The NCR DIY refill kit was another story, but they did
more than stand behind it when it didn't work out.)

One of the favorite arguments of the resident anti-refill/aftermarket ink
individual is that you don't know what you're getting. I doubt he's asked
and I don't believe that it's hard for any reasonably intelligent person to
examine a print cartridge, figure out what's in it and then mix it up and
sell it at a reduced cost.

i asked all of the larger relabelers via phone who is the mfg/formulator "brand" of ink they supply in their prefilled carts and bottles and they refused to tell me. now that is telling me you do not know what you are getting.

Look at thousands of other generic (yes, there's
that word again) products on the market today that do as well as their name
brand counterparts.

and most of the time the store brand of foods are not the same quality as major brands. there are some exceptions but nowhere is a store brand better accross the full line of products. as an example coscto kirkland full *** glossy is about as good as canon photo paper pro but the cut 4x6 *** lacks the whiteness of the full *** counter part. kirkland toliet paper is much worse than great northern or charmin also sold in costco for a few dolllars more.

(You do, however, have to allow for products that are
not as good as some...but that's true with anything.)


it is just that there a group of posters in this ng who will not admit the truth like you just did and keep name calling and instulting posters who disagree with them. they also support the spammers who push \their cause and a few are plants working for the relabeler and there are two that either work for are newly retired from major printer companiers

Why is printer ink any
different?



Anyone who reports
good results with aftermarket inks (NOT generic, but formulated for each
printer) is attacked as an "agent" for the aftermarket ink industry.



Seen that, would agree that it's tiresome. However, I am *glad* that
measekite has stopped posting in all caps. In any case, his point could be
put across more tactfully. There is some small risk of damage to the printer
or at least a mess being made during the refill process.



Or --- has his more civil but equally biased
twin brother taken over his misinformation mission.



I wouldn't say that! :-0

I've just been at both ends of the spectrum here. I've had a Dataproducts
ink tank set make a huuuuuge mess in a DeskJet 660CSE. By the same token
(and this was most likely my fault) I tried an NCR "do it yourself" ink
refill kit for the HPDJ560 black cartridge and sprayed ink all over the
kitchen table. But on the other side, I refilled color cartridges for my 600
series DeskJets many a time and had great results, except for the times when
I forgot to refill before it ran out and smoked the print head. Today I'm
using an HP Photosmart 1215 with Office Depot ink in it. It works fine, and
even the ink life meter is running along nicely. I can't tell the difference
by look, feel or (yes, really) even smell from factory ink. It's run almost
12,000 copies so far and I have no reason to believe it will quit any time
soon.

So you win some and you lose some when it comes to refilling ink cartridges.
I'm not against refilling. It can work and do so quite nicely.

Hopefully that clarifies things.

William




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