Re: WAAY OT again: Web Servers




"Jack Crenshaw" <jcrens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

But I'm trying to get a web site up and running, and just learned that I
must pretty well choose between Linux-based servers running Apache, and
Windows servers running ASP.net.

Jack, I have been doing WEB development since before Microsoft got here. I
run IIS on some of my client's sites and Apache on others, and sometimes
both. But for you to get hung-up on what web server to use just because you
want to put-up a website doesn't make much sense unless you have some very
specific needs like building advanced web spplications. If I were building
an order entry system and I were using Exadel Struts and Java I would use
Apache, and if I were using Visual Studio 2003 and ASP.NET I would use IIS.
I could run either on Windows Server 2003 if I wished. Since I have done
both and don't see much difference I would leave it up to the client to
decide. My earlier years of writing perl or C language cgi in apache on AIX
and Solaris and later in Linux or FreeBSD with a MySQL backend have not
tainted me with a preference either. I still would use Adaptive Server
Anywhere (SYBASE) anywhere if that's what the client wanted, or FireBird
even. Who cares! I could use a soapdish and a built-in webserver in my
database too if I wished. Let's not forget ruby and php and all that other
good stuff...

http://www.netfirms.ca/web-hosting/web-hosting-business/

The above link is to the ISP I use but the package is quite expensive
compared to some. It does alot but it also does not make sense to me for my
needs. So I just use basic web hosting and link all my websites to the same
package.

I'm such a newbie re web server technology, I had no clue that I'd have to
choose between the Open Source route and Microsoft. I'm not exactly a fan
of Bill Gates and MS. But I'm using -- no, TRYING to use -- Visual Web
Developer, and the Linux servers don't support ASP.net.

I really don't know why you are using this. Most of us can write html in our
programmer's editors. Jack, it is not so much whose technology you are using
as what is it exactly that you are trying to do. Since 1996 I have put at
least 3 solid years working every day in ASP.NET and I have another solid
year or so in Java webapps and another year or so in Perl and C cgi. That is
solid time, every day! 5-6 years! That's not including my hobby time.

OK, that's all fine but when a guy (or a gal:) wants to build a web site
that's a little different than building a webapp. And all this talk of Linux
versus Windows is just nonsense! It's really a question of what html editor
you should use to begin with.

I'd appreciate and value your opinions on the subject.

OK then Jack, I hesitated but not only is this mostly all OT but you all
seem to have become sidetracked in a very destructive and interesting way.

I apologize again for such a way OT question -- Sorry, Herb -- but I'm
getting conflicting opinions from so many partisans on both sides.

Herb doesn't seem like a particularly partisan person. I also think I am way
more pro-Microsoft than Udo is pro-Unix, but on this particular question of
yours I think you need to back-up a step or two and consider that the choice
is not between Linux and Windows... it's not that simple. Programming
webapps or winapps... the choice is basically the same as choosing a
programming language for a particular job and OS.

However, instead of a programmer's editor you have already chosen a Word
Processor (Visual Web Developer) so now you have painted yourself into a
non-generic corner.This has nothing to do with a website.

I'm asking for advice here because I very much respect your opinions, value
your advice, and trust you to give objective opinions. I'd appreciate your
thoughts. Feel free to email me privately, if you prefer.

Hmm... OK then, what is it you are trying to do? If you want to develop
websites, learn html. If you want to develop web applications, what's in
your wallet? If you want to keep it cheap then use linux. If you want to use
Microsoft languages then use ASP. You should start with perl anyway and
learn your CGI as well as your html before branching-off into some wierd
proprietary direction.

Respectfully,

Bill


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