Re: VmWare?
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:06:17 -0500, Jack Crenshaw
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On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:52:20 -0500, Jack Crenshaw
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:22:58 -0500, Jack CrenshawAllison, maybe you can help me understand about VMware. I downloaded a
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Anyone here using VmWare? My old approach to multiple boot systems wasYes on an everyday basis. IT's not a dual boot. For example I do
to use Partition Magic with System Commander. But I hear that's old hat
these days.
Jack
software builds in a linux envronment on Mac Mini running leopard.
I just crank up the VMware engine running linux (ubuntu) and start
the builds and do other stuff on the mac like email and the like while
the build happens. It's like ahving two PCs wharing one screen without
the KVM and the like.
At home I run VMware on Linux(Ubuntu) to have a handy Win98 box for
those old apps.
Allison
30-day trial copy of VMware Workstation, and am slogging my way through
the (530 page!) manual. But someone else is using VMware Server,
seemingly to do the same job, and it's free.
I forget they call the free version for winders makes no differnce
they are about the same. You install it, create a virtual PC that has
nothing on it (yet) and use that PC to boot your install for whatever
OS you prefer.
Ok, that confirms my suspicions. They call the free version Server,
which makes it sound like you have to run it remotely, but that doesn't
seem to be the case. Today I left an email at VMware, and the reply said
that the only difference is, Workstation has more features.
I have a linux box running Ubuntu and the choices Ive
created for virtual PCs are W98se, Win/nt4 and for laughs WIn3.11 plus
Puppy Linux (small sized).
Puppy Linux??? Dang! Yet another site to bookmark!
Just google "small linux" the list will scare you.
If the system had a Coreduo I'd run
several at one time but with a VIA C3 one is enough. At work I have
VMwareFusion (paid for version on a Mac Mini) and that runs Ubunto
8.10 for a build/compile envronment for emdedded linux. Thats an idea
of what you can do.
Among other things, I plan to use it for Ubuntu and to tinker with my
SBCs. Also try out some of the other OSs like Minix.
My best use is W98se shrunk with 98/lite
98/lite?? DANG!!! Is that _ANOTHER_ bookmark???
There is also an XP lite..
to have a fast tight machine
that isn't NT4,5,6 bound up for running Z80 and CP/Msims that what to
use hardware like IO ports. Works killer for that. Yes, its a sim in
a sim.
Way cool. Wow, if I could get a stable version of Windows, I'd feel like
I just won the lottery.
Real easy DON'T run IE, OE, outlook or any of the office suite. Those
are buggy and also security risks.
My NT4 system runs an average of 4000hrs between shutdowns for things
like fan cleaning. Thats 24/7 for about 6 months.
What you do in the end is run VMware, create a machine (mem size,
processor, disk size, network and so on...) that is an analog of a
real PC and then you install you OS on it and use it. Done right the
OS has the same look and feel as if it were on real hardware but it's
only disk space on a machine. If it crashes it's in a virtual
sandbox, meaning the virtual machine crashes but the host system is
unaffected.
That's the main point.
Do you have to install all the apps on each VM, or is there some way to
"copy" them as you build? If the former, I'm in trouble. All my
installation disks got "lost" in my last move.
Yes you can but note that winders software splatters it self around
the OS and sets registry data so copying the the install directory
usually does not result in an install.
Allison
Thanks loads for your help.
Jack
If you took a "snapshot" when it was working you can
revert back to it and delete the crash. Very good for experimental
or one off work. it's not archival or backup it's a way to have
machines(many) that are specific purpose without dedicating
hardware to something you may not need all the time. Plus while the
virtual box is running you can still mouse over to the primary desktop
and do whatever and have the other running uninterrupted.
If your serious a good machine is a Dell server with at least 4gb ram
and coreduo cpu (or quad) VMware is a bit of a memory user and
performs best if there is excess.
I do have a Dell AMD 64x2, but "only" 2Gb of RAM. Can always get more,
of course. But the things I plan to use it for
Enough for now.
The question is: If I'm running on a single desktop -- no networking --
do they both serve the same purpose, or are they fundamentally different?
They can network between them! and yes they can be asdiffernt as one
running XPpro and the other Ubuntu 8.10 server(no gui).
Allison
Thanks
Jack
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