Re: cpmtools Win32 wanted

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 10:43:17 -0600, Bill Buckels wrote:

"Udo Munk" <umunk@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.11.16.13.55.28.507325@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
This cmd.exe thing is some kind of joke

Working in cygwin is some kind of joke. cmd.exe is perfectly capable of
handling most anything that is written for Windows.

Fortunately Microsoft won't save any expense to help us with their
powershell, so that no one has to use some kind of joke like cygwin.
That cmd.exe thing included with XP is the most awful version ever created
and Microsoft seems to know that too.

So why someone who wants to use CP/M command line stuff won't get cygwin
tools is difficult to understand for me.

Yes I can see that. I have used cygwin for a number of years for what it
is good for.

Why someone who wants to work in Windows would think that cmd.exe is
some kind of joke when it descended from CP/M and then who wants to use
CP/M is difficult for me to understand. Perhaps my understanding is
different than yours:)

Because DRI in 1981 already had better command line shells than Microsoft
in 2008?

That should solve this problem. I'm just wondering how someone wants to
debug 8080 code with ddt, when not able to install an development
environment on some sort of Windows box ;-)

And I like T.S. Elliot am wondering what it feels like as "Son of CP/M"
to ascend amongst the 'quiring angels while the rest of us mere mortals
wait in our respective Savannahs:) to be judged by our respective
saviours... sh, bash, ksh, cmd, etc.

No idea what you are saying with this.

The real fun is building it and then using it...

Yes, for some... and me too, but I prefer to use native tools as much as
possible... and also believe that people in glass houses should dress in

This tools produce native .exe files from all kind of source languages.
That shared libraries are uses is nothing new, even Microsoft has learned
that a while ago.

their respective cellars. But then I am just playing and all this is
just a huge joke on us all by the holy ghost of Digital Research and
Gary Kildall the Father and I can see them up there laughing at us now:)

I don't get the glass house saying and I have serious doubts that Kildall
would be laughing about the crap we got.

Not everyone wants the same things I think.

Basically yes, in the details not and I still didn't get a graphical
Fortran compiler that draws pink stripes all over the screen while
compiling and I really need that ;-)

Bill

Udo Munk
--
The real fun is building it and then using it...

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