Re: Can you merge Pines?
- From: Beartooth <beartooth@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:45:31 -0500
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:49:30 +0000, NM Public wrote:
On 2006-03-15, I Beartooth [beartooth@xxxxxxxxxxxx] wrote inter alia :
Would someone please explain that in English, or refer me to a site
with a recipe? I *use* IMAP for preference [...]
Here's what I recommend (and do myself).
[Aside: I'm honored to see Nancy her own self on this thread, and I hope
the following is not clear off topic; there may be several of us in the
same boat. And she will know if anybody does. -- btth]
1. Get an IMAP service provider that offers at least 1 gig of
IMAP-accessible space, server-side filtering, backups & restores, and a
webmail that can do global searching of your IMAP space.
OK, I have most of that, and can probably have the rest if I ask; I may
have it now and not know it. I know that Ddave (who owns the IMAP machine)
runs squirrelmail on his web interface; I use that at times against the
account there. I've asked him about server-side filtering and backups &
restores.
2. Keep all your email on your IMAP service provider's system.
I'd love to! I keep most of it there now. (Details below.)
3. Set up Pine on all your systems, both your local desktop systems and
your remote systems, so that it accesses and manages your mail on your
IMAP service provider's system.
Question: in what sense accesses and manages? I have two email accounts,
both of which I access from five machines. My good ISP, from whom I do get
IMAP and on whose linux machine I run Pine and do most of my email, is
remote -- three thousand-odd miles.
(Lest I cause confusion: heretically enough, I don't use Pine to read
comp.mail.pine -- or any other newsfeed. Despite my attachment to Pine for
email, I prefer to run Pan as my newsreader.)
The only broadband connection available where I live (and the account I
get my newsfeeds from, and thus use for c.m.p) is the POP3 one on cable --
which is also my only access to usenet, the Web, downloads, etc.
I can't get rid of that; if I did, I'd have no broadband at all. I doubt
that I can configure it in any significant way, either -- or anything else
on any machine at Adelphia. (More below.)
4. Set up your pinerc(s) and address book(s) so they reside on your IMAP
service provider's system.
The ones for the IMAP account are there now; the ones for the local
account were originally cloned from them. (They may have diverged a
little.)
5. Set up an alias or shortcut on every system where you run Pine that
looks something like this:
pine -p {your.imap.provider}remote-pinerc
Once you've done all this, you will be able to access and manage all
your mail from all your systems without needing to worry about your
mailboxes getting out of sync or spread around on different machines.
THIS is what IMAP is all about.
Here's where I get confused. As things are now, each of the machines in
this house accesses the one same POP3 account directly -- using Pine in a
Gnome terminal -- and also accesses the one same IMAP account directly,
over a remote (ssh) connection. (One machine here does both about 99% of
the time, and the others do only occasionally -- mostly when I'm forced to
reboot the main machine to XP for something I can't yet run under linux.)
The trouble of course is with the POP3 account. Accessing the same
instance of Pine from several locations is indeed a great blessing.
Believe me, I do understand that part, and delight in it.
I *think* you're saying that I should arrange for the remote IMAP machine,
rather than any of my own machines directly, to access my POP3 account,
and then I would access it through the remote connection, instead of
directly, as I do now.
Is that right??
I would get my adelphia mail *through* the remote IMAP, and leave the
extant IMAP alone except for telling it about the additional mailserver.
Right??
And I would still keep both addresses, and know when I was working
in which?? (That detail is important, unfortunately.)
If you need more than a gig to store your mail, shop around. Disk space
is essentially free and infinite now. For example, my Verio Signature
account now includes 10 gigabytes (i.e., 10240000 bytes). If Verio is
offering this, that means everyone will be soon.
I hope this makes sense and I hope you can join the wonderful world of
IMAP!
Nancy
Item 5 is the one I mainly want to follow up with questions :
5. Set up an alias or shortcut on every system where you run Pine that[...]
looks something like this:
pine -p {your.imap.provider}remote-pinerc
Let me see if I have this straight. Is that a bash alias? I know where I
can get advice on those if I need it. Or is it some kind of alias inside
something else? And is it on each of my own machines? Or do I have to get
Adelphia The Eternally Accursed (which probably doesn't own a linux drive)
to put an alias on its machine somehow?
I think you're going to tell me I don't have to configure a thing at
Adelphia, or even tell them about it -- they wouldn't want to be bothered,
because it would make literally *no* difference to them? It sounds almost
too good to be true.
I hope this post isn't too mixed up; I really am finding yours, Nancy, a
such a revelation that I can hardly get my head around it, if it does mean
what I take it to. But I'm not at all surprised at the source.
--
Beartooth Staffwright, Hunter by Birth,
Not Quite Clueless Fedora Power User
by God's Grace, Linux's and the Net's
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