Re: Controlling email headers - at the email client or ???

AbbieNormal <none@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 21 Jul 2006 13:48:03 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Should I abandon OE and go with Outlook, Eudora or maybe possibly
Forte Agent? Do they give you any control over the headers?

Why not just run your own MTA instead of relying on a MUA to do it?

Or just a MSA (Mail/Message Submission Agent) with his ISP's/MSP's
mailserver/MTA (Mail/Message Transfer Agent). If he has some UNIX/Linux
experience, he can install Cygwin [1] on (MS-)Windows and run ssmtp [2]
as his MSA. ssmtp is a send-only sendmail look-alike. Also there is a
native (non-Cygwin) sendmail for (MS-)Windows. For the latter, check
this group on my name and sendmail or ssmtp.

[1] Cygwin: <http://cygwin.com>

[2] ssmtp package for Cygwin:
<http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-grep.cgi?grep=ssmtp>

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I can do everything I want with Sendmail, but I
just might as well go and bang my head ten times real hard on my desk
and get the same end result in a fraction of the time.

Seriously, though, sendmail is a last resort. It's just going to be my
luck that I'm going to spend the next 2 weeks staying up late reading
man pages only to find that what I'm trying to do is impossible,
there's some kind of bug, or that there's one niggling issue that
can't be quite resolved.

You missed the point. I'm talking about using a M*S*A only, *not* your
own M*T*A.

Both ssmtp and the native sendmail are *send-only*. The configuration,
at least for ssmtp, is *trivial* and part of the installation process.
The usage is just piping the desired headers and body to it. So no need
for headaches or staying up late. That the *real* (i.e. full/UNIX)
sendmail can *also* be a M*T*A, which is indeed not trivial to set up,
is irrelevant to my suggestion (because I'm not suggesting to use it as
a MTA).

Anyway, it didn't occur to me to run an smtp server to send the emails
first to my ISP instead of connecting directly to the destination
domain. Thanks. That's the solution I will be going with if I can't
find an email client that I like and isn't broken (i.e. add extraneous
x-header ***).

As I said, there is no need to run your own MTA. Only use a MSA (like
ssmtp or sendmail) *instead of* your MUA/mailer, so you have full
control over the headers. Only if your ISP's/MSP's MTA (i.e. not (only)
your MUA/mailer) adds undesired headers, you will have to run your own
MTA.
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