Re: Version Tracker updates not readable.....
- From: Ilgaz Ocal <ilgaz_ocal@xxxxxxxxx >
- Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 01:52:55 +0200
On 2006-01-31 22:40:04 +0200, hairy.biker@xxxxxxxxx (Andy Hewitt) said:
Ilgaz Ocal <ilgaz_ocal@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Any ways around this?
Hi,
I am a versiontracker pro subscriber too and I prefer "text only" mails/alerts etc via my preferences. In fact, I opt in for "text only"
mail everywhere I can. That is a lifesaver for my tiny Sony K700i Cell
Phone mail client too. Of course GPRS bills are lower.
I have no bandwidth restriction for my needs, nor any real concern about the extra disk space used either.
Well, it is not just disk or bandwidth. We are speaking spesifically about Versiontracker here. It is a information service, free or paid. Their mail is generally a version update or developer note (I use both). Their HTML/CSS team uses the technology to its limits for website trying to abide standards which is good. The problem is mails sent as HTML by default and also have "text" option.
The "alert" I get is this here, as I opted for text only: __ Product Updates: ==============================================================================
Java Embedding Plugin 0.9.5+c (Freeware) use latest Java in non-Safari browsers <http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/23790> Installed on: Ilgaz ___
I don't think it can give me "better" information or "better functionality" if it was HTML. If I was a windows user, with IE HTML engine running, I would opt in for Eudora's own html rendering which is exactly like Mac version, broken but safe :) So it would appear broken.
If I used OS X Mail.app or even Eudora 7 OS X (which uses os x html rendering) ships "magically", I would do the same, text only.
Eudora 7??? On the Mac!
Not according to the Eudora web site, that states 'Windows Only'.
Well I mean this: Qualcomm gives a clue about mac version which will have "built in spotlight support" or "spotlight compatible files" and OS X Webkit rendering which you can count as Safari.
I say, even it ships tomorrow, I will be opting in for text only mail wherever I can.
Versiontracker mails/alerts etc are designed to "inform you" and you can really live without their cool logo :) If you actually use it to its limits (btw free users can get up to 10 alerts), the mail traffic
and mails from there should better be really be text.
After 10.4.x OS X shipped and after first batch of real Mactels shipped, I had like 10-15 mails from versiontracker product alerts. You
understand what I mean by "text only preferred" :)
Yes, I do, and if you read the rest of this thread (which isn't very long), you'll see that I've already done this.
Another thing is, did you ever notice "Spy guy" on HTML mails when read by Eudora? Especially large companies use them. That is "tracking gif". That is an underrated feature of Eudora. With that gif and its unique number etc, they (websites) actually track when their mail is read, how much time spent on mail etc.
I use a double Firewall, NIDS and Little Snitch, so not a lot gets in or out without me knowing.
These utilities can't "protect" you from getting tracked. That is the "magic" about the famous invisible gif. The "little spy guys" Eudora funnily alerts about are huge power in spammers hand. Or commercial sites still spy you with their documented policies. :) Invisible gif is something like "curioussite.com/clear.gif?andyhewitt" inside mail addressed to you. For me, it becomes curioussite.com/clear.gif?ilgaz_ocal by the very advanced mailer/statistics server they use. So as a browser is _designed_ to fetch stuff from HTML references, even if you have Checkpoint 1 spec carrying firewall, that evil gif or whatever is still fetched from site. Can be prevented but it is on whole web, who will you block? :) Apple?
An example (Be sure to admire the excellent term usage of Apple as usual)
http://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/
Pixel tags also enable us to send email messages in a format customers can read. And they tell us whether emails have been opened to assure that we’re only sending messages that are of interest to our customers. We store all of this information in a secure database located in Cupertino, California, in the United States.
It is the thing I speak about. Just became "pixel tag"
I do at least have the sense to turn off HTML graphics. I don't use Eudora to read my HTML mail, I only use it to receive them. I use my browser to view them - which, as you kindly point out below, is where they belong. It is this feature that is broken, I have already accepted that Eudora does not do HTML properly.
I always compare Eudora to Microsoft Outlook (not express!). Microsoft Outlook does have similar attitude against HTML mail. If it is "rich text like", like bold, colour etc , it will render. Even Microsoft does not suggest HTML mail anymore.
I must thank Eudora to teach me that HTML mail (except basic stuff, bold, etc) should not exist.
Getting into a HTML in mail argument isn't what I was looking for really, especially as I'm not even asking about viewing HTML within Eudora itself.
Eudora can run Applescript in every aspect yes? I am never into the UI languages but a plugin could be developed for Eudora which uses Apple Webkit Framework to simply render the message in some window.
Eudora can not invoke an application as a result of filter? That could be lifesaver. Like "if it comes from versiontracker, open in browser"
Sorry if I misunderstood your post. I just wanted to give information why HTML mail is even worse than RTF mail.
Ilgaz
-- notice the change in e mail address.
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