Re: Visionary things about smalltalk, JS ...

On Nov 24, 12:21 pm, Guido Stepken <gstep...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Please have a look at this GUI first, enjoy!

http://www.ommwriter.com/

Someone typing at 5 words a minute is hardly something people would
want to endure reading.

Isn't that pure beauty? Can u imagine to have such a IDE, yes, even
(database) application?

Advanced developers prefer using keyboard shortcuts whenever possible,
not searching through menus and buttons.
Personally I think an artistic IDE is irrelevant.

Then look at your old fashioned IDE. Overloaded with little symbols,
functionality. For a professional programmer, ok, functionality is
speed. For a beginner, it's horror.

Not sure what IDE's you're comparing this to.

How can you gain market shares in future? Win back old customers, extend
your business?

Not by changing my IDE, that's for sure.

Apple shows, how important "beauty" of GUI's (without having to miss
functionality) really is. Have a look at iWorks. Same concept like
ommwriter.

Of course, Microsoft products are far from beautiful, and often times
barely functional, yet they have
dominant market share with many products, so that begs the question on
the value of beauty as a primary attribute.

It's the beauty of simplicity that rises acceptance enormously. I am
stressed by these overloaded IDE's GUI's. Not really helpful to find
into the mental model behind a programming language, the concept of IDE.

So...you rely on an IDE to use a language? I think you have two
problems then.

I promise, that nobody in very soon future is willing to use that old
fashioned GUI stuff any longer.

People still use notepad to develop many languages regardless of the
existence of a variety of IDEs

Therein lies a big chance to gain new market shares. Did you notice,
that "usability companies" are exploding around the globe?

No.

The first company, that will be able to offer such a "innovative" GUI,
will win the race.

Doubt it. There is such a thing as a migration cost, and a mental
model of what an IDE should be like.
Also there is company policy to contend with.

And - have a look at 'palm pre' and 'android', 'GoogleOS' those little
GUI's for pocket computers. Their "look and feel" is beauty and many
companies see that, offer that functionality and "look and feel" for
desktop computing. OpenGL Hardware behind. It's cheap. See TI OMAP chip.

What does that have to do with an IDE?

Have you already seen FLUX Library for OpenGL GUI? No? See here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vo0yK7P8-s

In very soon future i see a 32bit renaissance.

Why 32bit?

Browser OS, OpenGL
built-in. A new standard coming up. No - no more GUI/OS wars!

Doubt it.

I see Javascript as "new mainstream programming language". A de facto
standard already.

Its had that status for a few years already. You need to catch up.

Nobody sees, that Javascript is in reality SMALLTALK!
Yes! Same mental models there behind! Even a ST2JS - Translator is
there!http://www.squeaksource.com/ST2JS/

Actually, JavaScript was influenced by: Self, C, Scheme, Perl, Python,
Java.
Not Smalltalk.

Means - new way's of interactivity, easy to do, even by non-programmers,
e.g. (sorry german, but functionality, that counts!):

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want someone who isn't a
programmer to write code.

Smalltalk - by design, due to its flexibility - will play a huge role in
future gui's, IMHO. The frontier between programmers and users will
simply disappear!

I think that ship has sailed already, and Smalltalk isn't currently on
board like it was when it first came about.

So IDE's and GUI's of the past, overloaded with functionality, ugly,
rectangular 'static', 'unanimated' windows, 'pull down menu's' - that
stuff all will disappear in very near future. In 2-3 years, i think.

Doubt it.

And - it's a new chance expecially for the Smalltalk language to start
off! Squeak Etoys was the first GUI, where non-programmers, yes, even
children could 'programm', do funny things in their mother language. No
need to learn any 'programming language'. Strange, isn't it?

And irrelevant. I don't see Smalltalk upsetting anything in common use
over the next 5 years even.

Microsoft .NET - the former "Standard" - C#, C++, win32, win64, SQL
databases - lightyears crawling behind.

I don't see how you came to this conclusion.

.

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