Re: [RH bug number] Re: ruby in the government - 1.6.x -> 1.8.x woes

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Daniel Hobe wrote:

This may be getting slightly off topic, but anyway...

On 10/12/05, snacktime <snacktime@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
<snip>


I try to stay away from rpm's if I can, but I imagine that you can probably
find a 1.8 rpm and then given the right command line arguments make it
install in /usr/local. Then just repeat that on the servers where you need
1.8.


I've never understood why people stay away from packages (be they
RPMs, debs or whatever).   Packages, properly put together, ensure
that all your machines are running the same binaries, which are built
in a reproducible manner.  I'd be concerned about running into
problems where your ruby installs have differing modules (say missing
openssl) because the development files were missing when you built
ruby.

Most of my installs need to be deployed to hundreds or more machines.
I couldn't imagine doing this without making a package for the
software.


i go back an forth.  here's a motivator for you though:  i recently switched a
webserver from an old redhat to a new debian.  i had compiled __evertything__
using

  export LD_RUN_PATH=/opt
  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt
  ./configure --prefix=/opt && make && sudo make install

the only thing i used the system for was c libraries, grep, ls - etc.  this is
how i migrated to a new server

  scp -r /opt newserver:/

took about 5 minutes and i had tons of seriously dynamic web aps - gallery,
python wikis, ruby wikis, etc etc.  it would have been SOOOO painful to
migrate with rpms it wouldn't have been possible i think.

i hate polluting system space.  that said, i use up2date/yum on my fedora
boxes and i'ts fine.




I'm not sure if /usr/local is the correct location on redhat though, you
will probably want to check that.


It is.


Chris




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