Re: FAQ Posting problem

VK said the following on 4/29/2006 3:30 PM:
Randy Webb wrote:
VK said the following on 4/29/2006 9:13 AM:
That would be a highly unwise decision because say comp.lang.javascript
currently has 3460 active Gougle Groups subscribers,
3460 in c.l.j or in all Usenet Groups?

In c.l.j *only* - I gave some links to look at - against 200 last
summer and ~1000 last December.

You read the chart wrong. That is not "Google Groups subscribers", it looks more like the "Total number of posts to comp.lang.javascript". The difference in huge.

But, I tend to agree with John, the people who post/answer from Google
Groups tend to follow the "I am using Google, so I don't know what the
F@#$K you are talking about, it shows what I am replying to up above,
why should I quote it?" mentality.

Well, actually Google has a rather nice summary article at
<http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12348&topic=250>
anyone can reach from the main Google News page. It seems to me that
it's a demonization of Google to think that people using Google will
skip on reading netiquette by their very nature :-), but news arents'
users will read all recommendations first. In either case it's a
question of good will and free time.

I don't see that trend here. Most people that use a decent newsreader and have to go through the steps to set it up are more likely to be introduced to an FAQ on how to set it up and thus more likely to find out if a group has an FAQ. The users of Google Groups don't seem to do that because there is nothing to setup. Fill out a form, start posting. At a minimum, if Google Groups had a section somewhere in that process that explained Usenet, and FAQ's, then it might not be so bad.

Now, a kudos to many of the Google posters. Once they have been beat in the head about 25 or so times about reading the FAQ, how to post properly, and Usenet in general, they tend to learn.

And, to date, I have not seen anyone that answers from Google Groups
that the answers they give tend to be ones you would want to keep track
of or read/follow the advice. Witness: electrician. (I will refrain from
using you in that example).

It's good to know that there is at least someone to overpass VK's
evelness :-)
I have one and am willing to share it if it would work with what Jim has
now. But, it requires authentication and that is the problem Jim has now
is that his software won't do the authentication part.

The authentication part was already posted in this thread (look
around). I can add the meat on the sceleton. Just keep in your mind
that a regular news gateway from ISP doesn't do any good. I have one
myself - but these gateways do not have NNTP login/pass authentication.
You are authenticated automatically and seemlessly by the fact of using
your ISP connection (so it goes within the global authentication you
make on Internet connect).

Mine doesn't, it requires authentication.

If you have a real account to give up: thus login/pass to connect by
NNTP protocol to another server, - then you have coffee and I do sugar
:-)

I have coffee, sugar and cream but the sad part is that I don't drink coffee on a regular basis. Mountain Dew all the way! :)

--
Randy
comp.lang.javascript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq & newsgroup weekly
Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/
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