Re: gforth dos/win


Marcel Hendrix wrote:
expandafter@xxxxxxxxx wrote Re: gforth dos/win

'Let?' The Linux version of iForth comes with build-in support for
serial ports and modems, and I used that for all my internet access
up to 2003. It's all very, very, generic code and I would be very
surprised if it didn't work on a laptop with modem (given a proper
Linux hardware driver of course).

Then prepare to be very surprised. (Have you missed
all of the talk about linux and winmodems?)

http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/components.html

The Linux WinModem Support project hopes to make
something useful out of the WinModem problem. Some
WinModems are now actually working under Linux,
including chipsets in some notebook computers.

Staggering. Stunning. Late in the year 2007, Linux weanies
are proud that Linux can use modems in "some" laptops.

http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/1999/09/07/linux_laptops/index1.html

It's just no fun to buy a new IBM Thinkpad and then
discover that no matter how good a hacker you are, you
simply can't get the built-in modem to work with Linux.
There are workarounds -- external modems or network
cards that can be plugged into PCMCIA slots or
otherwise connected -- but who wants to use up a
valuable PCMCIA slot or lug around an external modem
when your computer already has one built in?

http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000261

Still remaining is the modem. All I know so far is that
Fedora doesn't detect it, which probably makes it a
Winmodem. I may be able to enable it, but, if I don't,
I have other alternatives. If I want faxing, I can use
my HP all-in-one, which connects via USB. Should I need
telephony -- which I doubt -- I should be able to buy a
card.

A winmodem requires extra software, software that
Linux gurus can't or won't provide. (To paraphrase
Bernd, programming isn't a Linux paradigm.)
And yet they wonder why people use windows!

[ .. bell .. ]

There was no indication that gForth's authors intend

I think some reasonable hints were given, did
you miss those?

Why hint about the alleged hints instead of quoting
them? The authors blamed everything on cygwin.

IMHO unix programmers are used to create programs that
run anywhere. Thus they are not too happy to do waste
time fixing bugs for what they see as 'inferior
systems' that do not follow the rules.

In other words, they don't want feedback from windoze
users, i.e., people who want to be able to connect to
the internet with their laptop computers.

I'm glad that you admit that I was 100% correct.

.

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