Re: gforth dos/win



expandafter@xxxxxxxxx wrote Re: gforth dos/win
On Sep 6, 6:05 am, Bernd Paysan <bernd.pay...@xxxxxx> wrote:
[..]
And they don't mind if that EXE phones home and disables itself when the
anti-piracy server is down and things like that.

I've never seen a program under windoze do that. Since
I use a dial-up connection, there is no internet connection
much of the time, but no program refuses to work because of
that.

I think Bernd is skilfully combining two facts together in order
to get a provoking hypothesis. It is a fact that e.g. The German
magazine C't found that certain Windows installers 'phone home'
information that is none of their business. It is also a fact that
a few weeks ago there was an 'accident' with a
'Is-this-a-legal-Windows-copy' Microsoft server that cost some
people money.

And ZoneAlarm tells me when a program is attempting
to access the internet.

The authors of a closed-source OS should be able to build backdoors
that can not be detected by a user-level program that follows the
rules. (I am not saying that they do, or that the CIA is forcing
them to do so :-)

Speaking of dial-up, does Linux even let you use the modem
in your laptop computer? Or is it for high-speed connections
only? Not too long ago, I looked at a site that had tested
a version of Linux on a laptop, and get this: they didn't
even test the modem! Linux is for elitists; it isn't for
people who use dial-up.

'Let?' The Linux version of iForth comes with build-in support for
serial ports and modems, and I used that for all my internet access
up to 2003. It's all very, very, generic code and I would be very
surprised if it didn't work on a laptop with modem (given a proper
Linux hardware driver of course).

[..]
I don't believe that you and other Linux devotees really
want feedback from windoze users, because you are too
prejudiced against them.
[..]

You should not only go by appearance. Personally, I have gotten
very reasonable gForth support for my problems, although my tone
may have been quite whiney.

[ .. bell .. ]
There was no indication that gForth's authors intend

I think some reasonable hints were given, did you miss those?

to correct this defect. It seems that many creators
of free software expect---and perhaps even want---
the windoze versions of their programs to be inferior
to the Linux ones.

That would be very immature, and I don't think it's correct (anymore :-)

IMHO unix programmers are used to create programs that run
anywhere. Thus they are not too happy to do waste time fixing bugs for
what they see as 'inferior systems' that do not follow the rules. And
some of these authors simply don't have a Windows to test their code on.

Hmm, I am in somewhat the same situation now wrt Mac OS X :-(

-marcel

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