Re: State of Forth 200x

Complaints and few solutions !!!

I have explained the streamlined Forth , but not on your hardware .
It's up to you , here to argue it with "Us" to figure how to
code it !! Stop your complaining and start coding , if you can't
figure
how to code a I.P. , or nixing [compiler] words ,
i'll explain . But it is simple elimation ! I justfigured they were
NOT
needed at all !
But you must do some coding on your hardware . You must
start a new Forth ! From ground zero .
First rule : dont waste time on a Full , complete , correct assembler
..
Only code the classic , essential op codes ,later we elegantize ...

So what are you afraid of machine langauge ?

My method skips the hard to figure "SuperOpCodes" !!
Tempting isn't it ? BUT DON"t DO IT ! For it will be faster
to work with the super codes at a higher level !
remember ! The first draft doesnt need RunTime speed .

You will only need to do assembly for a short bit of code ( Forth
built in , instant assembler ) , after that , you NEVER have to
do Low level at a low level ! Cool huh ! Use High level to
do Machine language ...

I'm doin the ARM instruction set . I think the PDA is far easier to
work with and is NOT slow .

It won't need a KeyBoard !!!! it will create the remaining 90%
of Forth
using Voice menu recognition and touch screem ... cooool huh ?

PLease no complaints about "Where's the beef " ...
It's up to YOU !!!!!! You gotta code it . I obsolete and expose
the
stupid stuff and explain a common sense , simple way to do it ,
but i won't hold your hand .....
You gotta do the work ....
If your too lazy to learn machine lang , then you don't deserve a
Forth ,
go use the free stuff ha ha ....
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Andreas Kochenburger wrote:
I scanned through the available info at
http://www.forth200x.org/forth200x.html
and am a bit disappointed about the really minuscule progress made
there towards a more modern Forth. Of course the right answer to me
would be: where are your own contributions?

But anyhow, no proposal seems to have been made towards obvious
lacking things: OO, libraries, string handling, com sockets - you name
others. Instead there are "teacup discussions" about standardizing
already existing defacto words à la DEFER-IS. I don't call that
progress.

So I am dreaming of the day where some people pull together their
courage and time just to propose an OO scheme (damn that zelotic
discussion of object-method or method-object followers) ... or for
setting environment flags (my favourite: float_dpl when 0 a dot in a
number is interpreted as a double, when 1 the dot is interpreted as an
fp number and put on the fp stack) ... or


Andreas
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Dead men have no pockets.

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