Re: the new interface

"hunderstand why some people don't like new ide, it is more clear and
functional that rb 5.0 (and have a more professional look, rb 2005 look
like visual studio and rb 5 look like vb 4)"

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In case you didn't know, version 5.0.0 is considered to be one of the
worse releases of RB, its a buggy piece piece of crap; and if I recall
correctly its when RS decided to introduce a new built-in database (he'll
RS didn't even bother to update its Language Reference, actually mixing
code from the earlier database and the newer one - code examples dragged
from the LR crashed RB). If you are going to use the Mac version of RB
then use 5.5.5 (which you should know if you are a Mac user as you
claim).

If you used a Mac for years then you'd know the new interface does not
follow the multi-window interface as used in other professional grade
applications on the Mac, such as Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop. Large
one window interfaces are WHY I don't use Windows products (lets see here,
I have multi-screens connected to my Mac, but I am suppose to keep
everything in one window; he'll why have two screens?).

"Furthermore, complains from Win32 or Linux users for this matter are
rare."

Yes, this makes perfect sense the entire purpose of the new interface was
to get rid of the MDI interface on the Windows version of RB, which
Windows didn't like due to the lacking behavior of Windows. This was not a
problem on the Mac since we don't have to deal with the ignorant issues of
MDI, which the original poster of this thread would also know if he is
actually a Mac user as he/she claims.

"Also, for example, some functionalities are no longer available in RB
2005, sometimes because the new interface is not compatible with the old
behaviour."

This is true; however, this is an understatement; there are a HUGE number
of items in RB that do not work. Just take a look at RB feature request
page - many of these so called feature requests are actually people asking
for features to be put back into RB. For example the code spliter, the
ability to export code as plain text, etc... (all because RS decided to
remove them from the product). Then there are dozens and dozens of more
features which do not work because RB lacks the ability to hire competent
coders to work on their product (just clicking an item in the LR can cause
RB to crash because of a unhandled nil object error - assuming of course RB
actually gives you an error message before it crashes).

"About the first point, I think Mac users
(or firstly-Mac users, also) are actually mainly using RB 5.5 because
Realsoftware will not go back."

I will not be using RB until I am able to use it in a fashion similar to
5.5.5 - I do not want to see or use the tabbed interface at all. I could
care less if people want to use the new interface, BUT RS better offer an
alternative out of respect to its original customer base who built their
company. Considering how flexible RS says RB is then they should not have
any problem adding a IDE preference. But you are not going to see that
because the people that run RS are evil and have no conscience what so
ever; they are little better than the people than ran Enron. Hell, one of
their main engineers, Aaron Ballman, is blantantly Anti-Macintosh in posts
and on his blog.

"I find it interesting how so many of the Mac based RB05 users feel that
it's too "windows like" when a single window interface has become the
mac standard (take a look at any iLife software).

Anyway I have to agree with Michaelangelo. Heck, I upgraded to RB05
BECAUSE of the new interface. Once one gets used to it, they're likely
to find that it's actually much more productive. I know I have.

Of course no one can deny that this rewrite has created a whole new
series of bugs. However RS's new rapid release model should squash a
lot of these in a small amount of time, so we just need to hang on
through the hard stuff. It'll be over in due time."

Please get clue! iLife applications are consumer level application
intended for your average homeowner to fiddle with at home. RB Pro is
intended as a professional grade piece of software which is uppose to be
in the same realm as Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator in that its suppose
to be the best in its field. When I edit photos I don't use God damn
iPhoto, I use PhotoShop because I can run circles around iPhoto. When I
code with RB I use a multi-window interface, not a tabbed interface where
everthing is stacked over the top everything else, because the old
interface is more productive. I will not "get used to" the new interface
because I can run circles around it using the old interface. THE NEW
INTERFACE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING MORE PRODUCTIVE - IT WAS DONE TO
MAKE THE IDE MORE ACCEPTABLE ON Windows RB. Exactly what is wrong with YOU
that you can't use the old interface in a faster manner than the new one
(who gives *** what it look likes, its how fast you can code with it).

Their rapid release is nothing more than a marketing program in which they
charge you money for the priveldge of being a beta tester for them, for a
product which RS management expects you to get down on your knees and beg
them to put in features they they removed and which you've already paid
for. If you truely believe that then I have a bridge to sell you here.

I suspect this post is nothing more than a fake post made on behalf of RS
since the original poster claims to have use RB on the Mac, yet does not
possess any knowledge of how things actually work on a Mac. Using a Mac or
5 minutes doesn't qualify you as a Mac user!

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