Re: Looking for BASIC compiler

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:27:18 +0200, Nameless wrote:

> "H-Man" <I-Hate@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:135khnrcdzh49$.fbo39ay9ecak$.dlg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> On 24 Aug 2005 07:32:00 -0700, gswork@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>
>>> H-Man wrote:
>>>> I started programming many years ago, first with VAX BASIC,
>>>> and later with GW-Basic. I then moved to QB and PDS and
>>>> VBDOS. Programming for Windows started with VB4 and then VB6,
>>>> I skipped VB5, and most recently VB.NET, BTW I really don't
>>>> like .NET.
>>>
>>> Why is that?
>>
>> It's not that the language itself is that bad, I looked at it
>> and played with it, I suppose I really need to use it for a
>> while to be fair regarding my statement. I suppose the most
>> frustrating this is that, being used to VB6 requires that I
>> forget much of the language and relearn it as .NET, something
>> I haven't had a lot of time to do.
>>
>>> the language is now so object oriented that there is a small
>>> learning hurdle that perhaps was lower than with VB, but i
>>> think it still a logical progression from VB1-6 as long as you
>>> are comfirtable changing some things about your programming
>>> approach and forgiving about the old VB features missing (but
>>> welcoming of the many more VB.NET ones coming in)
>>
>> I suppose
>>
>>> For quick GUI app development, and relatively small .exe's
>>> both VB4-6 and VB.NET are good, in the first and second
>>> instance provided you have the appropriate runtimes installed.
>>> .NET does need a more powerful PC, but in practice a P3 and
>>> 128 or more RAM will work fine.
>>
>> The problem at the moment isd the runtime. I still have Win98,
>> I know, I know, machines here and need to make apps that run
>> there. I suppose it's only one download for .NET, but I though
>> if there was a solution not requiring runtimes, I'd like to see
>> it as an alternative.
>>
>>>> Along the way I've experimented with many other languages,
>>>> C, C++, Delphi, and other flavors of Basic, XBasic, RapidQ,
>>>> and most recently RealBasic. None provide the development
>>>> speed VB does for me.
>>>
>>> I found Delphi to be the best for RAD, but indeed not quite
>>> as easy to get going as a VB app. FreeBasic is great as a
>>> 32 bit enhanced alterantive to QB, but not really for RAD.
>>>
>> I like Delphi, but would prefer a BASIC solution to no runtimes
>> required. Mostly because I am most familiar with BASIC. AFAIK,
>> FreeBASIC has a seperate runtime module, no?
>>
>>>> What I'm looking for is a VB like IDE, with a proper forms
>>>> designer and such that can produce self contained .EXE's,
>>>> without the need to distribute runtimes as well. RealBasic
>>>> is a good fit for this, but it is still way too OSX oriented,
>>>> is really slow, and doesn't do databases really well.
>>>
>>> i suspect that VB6, VB.NET and Delphi are still the best bet
>>> for this kind of application, or patience regarding the
>>> alternatives you've mentioned
>>
>> It looks like you're right. Of the bunch, Delphi is the only
>> solution not requiring runtime distribution.
>>
>> Thanks for your input.
>
> Have you checked out PureBasic http://www.purebasic.com/ ?


Actually I had seen this before, but hadn't really looked at it. this looks
like a really nice tool. Do you know if it requires a runtime file to be
distributed with it?

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