Re: Looking for BASIC compiler

"H-Man" <I-Hate@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On 24 Aug 2005 07:32:00 -0700, gswork@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>> H-Man wrote:
>>> I started programming many years ago, first with VAX BASIC,
>>> and later with GW-Basic. I then moved to QB and PDS and
>>> VBDOS. Programming for Windows started with VB4 and then VB6,
>>> I skipped VB5, and most recently VB.NET, BTW I really don't
>>> like .NET.
>>
>> Why is that?
>
> It's not that the language itself is that bad, I looked at it
> and played with it, I suppose I really need to use it for a
> while to be fair regarding my statement. I suppose the most
> frustrating this is that, being used to VB6 requires that I
> forget much of the language and relearn it as .NET, something
> I haven't had a lot of time to do.
>
>> the language is now so object oriented that there is a small
>> learning hurdle that perhaps was lower than with VB, but i
>> think it still a logical progression from VB1-6 as long as you
>> are comfirtable changing some things about your programming
>> approach and forgiving about the old VB features missing (but
>> welcoming of the many more VB.NET ones coming in)
>
> I suppose
>
>> For quick GUI app development, and relatively small .exe's
>> both VB4-6 and VB.NET are good, in the first and second
>> instance provided you have the appropriate runtimes installed.
>> .NET does need a more powerful PC, but in practice a P3 and
>> 128 or more RAM will work fine.
>
> The problem at the moment isd the runtime. I still have Win98,
> I know, I know, machines here and need to make apps that run
> there. I suppose it's only one download for .NET, but I though
> if there was a solution not requiring runtimes, I'd like to see
> it as an alternative.
>
>>> Along the way I've experimented with many other languages,
>>> C, C++, Delphi, and other flavors of Basic, XBasic, RapidQ,
>>> and most recently RealBasic. None provide the development
>>> speed VB does for me.
>>
>> I found Delphi to be the best for RAD, but indeed not quite
>> as easy to get going as a VB app. FreeBasic is great as a
>> 32 bit enhanced alterantive to QB, but not really for RAD.
>>
> I like Delphi, but would prefer a BASIC solution to no runtimes
> required. Mostly because I am most familiar with BASIC. AFAIK,
> FreeBASIC has a seperate runtime module, no?
>
>>> What I'm looking for is a VB like IDE, with a proper forms
>>> designer and such that can produce self contained .EXE's,
>>> without the need to distribute runtimes as well. RealBasic
>>> is a good fit for this, but it is still way too OSX oriented,
>>> is really slow, and doesn't do databases really well.
>>
>> i suspect that VB6, VB.NET and Delphi are still the best bet
>> for this kind of application, or patience regarding the
>> alternatives you've mentioned
>
> It looks like you're right. Of the bunch, Delphi is the only
> solution not requiring runtime distribution.
>
> Thanks for your input.

Have you checked out PureBasic http://www.purebasic.com/ ?

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