Re: Problem: code, algorithm, or both?

Jan Karman wrote:
"phil chastney" <phil.hates.spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:GSR%k.37598$hm4.9229@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Jan Karman wrote:
"kai" <kaithomasmax@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:b6ad9104-0893-4494-82f2-3984dfcd0788@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"If you use the proper tools ..." where did I hear that again?
What I meant by this:

1) Use software which is Unicode-capable
2) <ToBeIignored by="Stefano">Don't use Internet Explorer</
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and - bingo! it will work...

I have no experince with Outlook Express, but I used to use Outlook
for years. I am not using it any longer for good reasons.

Kai
what would you recommend? Firefox/Thunderbird?
Jan -- do you realise that browser and email software will use fonts stored on the _reader's_ machine?

so, if you don't have the necessary fonts installed, it doesn't matter what software you use, because there is nothing it can do to improve the display

the only real problem is that the encoding in the font on your machine, and the encoding specified(?) in the incoming msg, must match

there are books full of different encodings, but if we go along with the zeitgeist, and standardise on Unicode, that problem disappears

there are significant differences between IE and Firefox -- if you are going to consult Wiki pages displaying mathematical formulae, and other sites using mathematical markup, you will need to swap between IE and Firefox if you want to get a proper display

another difference is that you cannot download from the Microsoft sites using Firefox

so, as regards browsers, I would come down firmly on both sides of the fence . . . /phil



Thanks Phil.
Yes, I realize that.
I have only one machine, I have 200 tasks. I've set the fonts to Unicode everywhere I could (including APL385) but I'm not complaining not having a proper display of APL-characters in my mail/news reader. I wouldn't expect otherwise. I don't know of software that hasn't bugs.
I've been using APL for 20 years, long enough to know that obscurity is in its genes, surprised that all of a sudden and finally after 40 years the character display needs to be solved. I'd be beans if I understand.
My music program has a feature to export to pdf, just from your working ***. But also Adobe is a collection of bugs, they say.
Proper display of APL-code is good for copy & paste, e.g. from your news reader into your workspace, but Arthur says: "Stop copy&pasting!!" Code is for typing (In the K-console there's no "copy & paste" possibility). And Ray says: Reading for Writing (NY'89).

(Dark days before Christmas ... don't you think).
jk


if you've got APL385 installed, there's no reason why your news reader cannot display APL characters -- they can handle Japanese and Hindi, after all, so a few special APL characters should be a doddle

I suspect that your viewer is set to ISO-8859-1 by default

on Thunderbird, the encoding for incoming mail is visible under ""View", and the encoding to be applied to outgoing mail is specified under "Tools" -- like I said, don't ask me about OE

/phil
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