Re: Cannot get APL characters
- From: gwhite@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Doug White)
- Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:04:57 GMT
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In article <o0wgf.570373$tl2.331892@pd7tw3no>, "Don Kelly" <dhky@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>"Doug White" <gwhite@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> In article <UrWdnRH-tqDJ7-PeRVn-jA@xxxxxxx>, gwhite@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Doug
>> White) wrote:
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>>>><phdfromic@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>>> for example, the Alt-[ key, which behaves correctly as left arrow,
>>>>> cannot get the APL characters to display. Using the TEXT keyboard,
>>>>> for example, the Alt-[ key, which behaves correctly as left arrow,
>>>>> actually displays as a spade.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone suggest how to get the correct display ?
>>>
>>>I just ran into exactly the same problem at work, where they "upgraded"
>>>my computer to a Dell Optiplex GX620 with XP Pro. My previous Dell
>>>with W2K worked fine, and my IBM laptop at home with XP is also fine.
>>>All of a sudden, I can't get APL fonts to work. I haven't finished
>>>experimenting, but I suspect a defect in the graphics card the machine
>>>came with. If I go to Settings-Control Panel-Display, I get:
>>>
>>>Dell 2001FP (Digital) on 128MB ATI Radeon X600 SE
>>>
>>>I'd be very curious if the original poster or anyone else has this video
>>>setup and can or cannot get APLFONT.COM to work. I've already talked to
>>>the IT guys, and they are willing to extract the video card from the old
>>>machine & swap it to see if that fixes things.
>>
>> I also have a new Dell "Dimension E310" at home that just bought for my
>> two girls to use for homework (and hopefully learning APL). I just
>> copied my APL files over from my XP laptop, and the APLFONT.COM doesn't
>> seem to work on this machine either. The graphics is done by a chipset
>> on the motherboard. Control Panel-Settings-Display reports it as:
>> Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset
>>
>> I have a nasty feeling that either Dell has done something odd in their
>> setup of their machines, or the newer video adapters are breaking the
>> VESA rules and won't work.
>>
>> I would really like to get to the bottom of this. Sometime this week,
>> the IT guys at work will swap in my old video card into my new machine.
>> If that doesn't fix it, it means Dell has done something odd (possibly in
>> the BIOS?) that disables downloading fonts. If it works, it suggests
>> that there are at least two flavors of video adapters out there that
>> don't work.
>>
>> Doug White
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>Thanks to Doug Houle, I now have apl glyphs witn STSC aplplus version 11. I
>had no problem with this under win98SE- using the aplfont.
>I set the properties of the "command prompt " to "maximised" and an stsc Apl
>font 18x12. I also set up alp.exe with font as auto and to run in a window.
>So far, I haven't set any other parameters such as extended memory.
>I wrote a file apl.bat placed in the directory in which the dos box opens
>
>cd\location of apl
>apl.exe
>exit
>
>All is fine until I do some boxg graphics - after which the window reverts
>to full screen 640x480 without the apl glyphs.
>
>I will have to explore more but it is unlikely that it is your
>adapter/monitor.
The more I think about it, the less likely it is even anything as fancy
as the VESA standard. The software doesn't use any special DOS drivers,
and the font download process dates back to EGA days. The problem is
with the standard VGA adapter interface.
I checked my one year old IBM laptop (which works fine) and it uses an
ATI Radeon video system. The new Dell at work also uses and ATI Radeon
(different version, but presumably a similar video system), and it won't
accept the fonts. This supports my notion that Dell has managed to break
something. I'm going to contact ATI to see if they have any ideas.
Sometime next week, the IT guys at work are going to open up my old Dell
and swap the video card. If the old video card and driver don't work in
the new machine, Dell has definitely busted something.
Doug White
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