Re: Embedding webfont: a real-life example



On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Garmt de Vries wrote:

> Poornachandra.1s@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > you can go through this web site www.kagapa.org
> > first platform independent kannada web site built with font embedding
> > technolgy
>
> This is yet another example of a page containing iso-8859-1 characters,

Oh dear, is it? ... this kind of bogosity is taking many years to
fade out...

All that I got to see was a rather brusque warning to update my Flash
version. If I had my way, I'd de-install Flash, rather than forever
updating it: it may very well be capable of doing something useful,
but it's abused *so* often for time-wasting advertising nonsense that,
on balance, I'd rather not have it. However...

> displayed in such a way they look like Kannada characters. The text
> on your site cannot be copy-pasted, indexed by search engines, etc

Indeed.

> You should use characters from the appropriate Unicode range to
> write your pages with. I am aware that for most of the Indic
> languages, this does have one major drawback: getting the consonant
> conjuncts is quite tricky.

(Sounds similar to an area of support that A.Prilop was investigating
in relation to Devanagari.)

> First, many native speakers of these languages don't know how to
> represent them in Unicode.

It's something worth teaching, though, which is more than can be said
for fake Latin-1 fonts.

> Secondly, many fonts don't contain glyphs for conjuncts. Thirdly,
> many browsers can't handle them.

And fourthly, faking the characters as iso-8859-1 is hardly going to
help in *that* respect, is it?

> A similar problem exists with the Arabic script, where a different
> glyph must be used for the same character, depending on its position in
> the word.

Arabic is pretty well supported AIUI, though, in e.g Mozilla as well
as in Windows/MSIE. There are a few shortcomings with characters that
are specific to non-Arabic languages written in Arabic-type script
(e.g Urdu, I gather). (Caveat: I don't read any of these scripts
myself, but I'm interested in the technology of representing them on
the web.)

> But I think support for Arabic is better than for Kannada,
> Telugu, etc.

Mozilla didn't seem impressed by the particular example you gave, when
I tried it.

IE was *trying* to do something - would you care to show what the KRA
ought to look like? (or give a pointer to a graphic).

all the best
.



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